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2008-12-02 15:12:20 (5 weeks 3 days 45 minutes 44 seconds) #1940949 | | view posts since this          #1 

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Suggestions for an all motor car???

Hey everyone, I was considering doing some mod work on my new 06 spec v and was wondering on what I can do, without throwing in a turbo or nos.  I have of course considered the usual bolt on mods, such as CAI, stillen header w/ race pipe and stromung exhaust.  I live in Cali so you know the smog laws are gay and I will not pass so I will have to pay a fee for being a gross polluter.  Now my question is, what else can I do to the car?  Ive considered cams, port and polish the heads as well as port the throttle body.  Is there anything im missing?  I don't want this car completely raced out its still going to be a daily driver so what cams should I buy from JWT?  And do I need to upgrade the clutch, and a light weight flywheel?  I was also considering the unorthodox pulleys?  As you can see there is a lot on my mind.  So any suggestions would be much appreciated.  Thanks guys!

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2008-12-02 15:14:35 (5 weeks 3 days 43 minutes 29 seconds) #1940951 | | view posts since this          #2 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

you pretty much got it. but don't expect much of a performance gain. my greater satisfaction came from the suspension mods.


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2008-12-02 15:17:18 (5 weeks 3 days 40 minutes 46 seconds) #1940954 | | view posts since this          #3 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

02SERious wrote:

you pretty much got it. but don't expect much of a performance gain. my greater satisfaction came from the suspension mods.

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2008-12-02 15:20:54 (5 weeks 3 days 37 minutes 10 seconds) #1940960 | | view posts since this          #4 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

lol you will def wake up the car doing those mods but certainly wont be putting down crazy numbers..just putting i/h/e i noticed a decent difference...i just got my tranny/flywheel and clutch all done up and that made a  nice difference. but yeah suspension mods sound fun although i dont have any i def have to get around to it


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2008-12-02 15:26:36 (5 weeks 3 days 31 minutes 28 seconds) #1940963 | | view posts since this          #5 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

if you want all motor and decent speed go for vq swap because it would be about the same price.  other than that, i would say keep it basic and go with i/h/e/mmis/suspension/wheels/new brake pads/rotors depending on ur current ones and leave it at that.  you can add cams/pulleys/bore the engine/balance shaft remover/safc 2 and so on, but it doesn't add that much horsepower for what they cost.  it all depends on what your looking for out of the car.  i've had 2 modded cars and i thought with basic i/h/e/suspension/mmis/short throw/sway bars/strut bar(spec doesn't need it) for a daily driver is fairly decent.  i've never been about speed, but about feel and handling.  so my opinion is figure out what ur looking for and go from there.  that's like i would pick an evo 9 rs/ lotus exige, porsche gt3, or bmw  e46 m3 csl over every other car in the market right now as a car and it's because that's what those cars are made for.  not over done and fairly well balanced between power and handling which is my ideal car.

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2008-12-02 15:35:38 (5 weeks 3 days 22 minutes 26 seconds) #1940967 | | view posts since this          #6 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

in my opinion, the biggest differences will come from basic bolt ons.

I/H/E -- most everyone does these. makes a nice difference.
short shifter/MMI/$4wha  -- add to the feel of the car. more lively and fun.
BSR -- adds that last little bit of midrange performance, i defnitely noticed gains from this.

i have all the above, and i'm happy with it all.


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2008-12-02 16:29:38 (5 weeks 2 days 23 hours 28 minutes 26 seconds) #1941015 | | view posts since this          #7 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

Fireman sounds like your doing the same thing I'm doing and you have a good direction.

Just want an enjoyable car to drive right?

Everyone else (except maybe for a vq swap.. sorry) is a good idea. I have Intake, header, exhaust with a Short throw and the car is fun. Last things that are missing really are a nice Nismo Suspension setup and Travis Motor mounts and crossmember inserts. (theres currently a group buy for those.) With all that you'll have a decently quick car that's solid too.

With doing the Underdrive pulleys, and fidanza flywheel and jwt clutch just makes the car more responsive "snappy" you could say. Your removing unsprung weight which helps the engine rev a little quicker. Like everyone else says, don't expect "huge" numerical gains, the car will feel better than the numbers show but numbers aren't that important it's how the car feels and drives. smiley-laugh

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2008-12-02 16:33:02 (5 weeks 2 days 23 hours 25 minutes 2 seconds) #1941020 | | view posts since this          #8 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

Short ram, header, exhaust, BSR, cams, p&p head, higher compression pistons, intake manifold, raised rev limiter, and a SAFC.  Don't waste your money on pullies, and a clutch and flywheel is not necessarily required.


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2008-12-02 16:46:57 (5 weeks 2 days 23 hours 11 minutes 7 seconds) #1941031 | | view posts since this          #9 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

you can also go with larger valves, everything else has already been mentioned besides a rsb which really helped in handeling imo

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2008-12-02 17:14:55 (5 weeks 2 days 22 hours 43 minutes 9 seconds) #1941066 | | view posts since this          #10 

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2008-12-02 17:16:42 (5 weeks 2 days 22 hours 41 minutes 22 seconds) #1941068 | | view posts since this          #11 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

dont waste money on n/a other than i/h/e.  our cars don't bolt on too well


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2008-12-02 18:55:21 (5 weeks 2 days 21 hours 2 minutes 43 seconds) #1941169 | | view posts since this          #12 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

ok ill honest here; i tried for a n\a beast (check the profile its all there) i wanted to hit 200n\a and be happy. WRONG-O im currently buying support mods for a turbo kit this may. if i knew now what i did then i would be boosting and smiling

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2008-12-02 19:26:39 (5 weeks 2 days 20 hours 31 minutes 25 seconds) #1941198 | | view posts since this          #13 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

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Hey everyone, I was considering doing some mod work on my new 06 spec v and was wondering on what I can do, without throwing in a turbo or nos.  I have of course considered the usual bolt on mods, such as CAI, stillen header w/ race pipe and stromung exhaust.  I live in Cali so you know the smog laws are gay and I will not pass so I will have to pay a fee for being a gross polluter.  Now my question is, what else can I do to the car?  Ive considered cams, port and polish the heads as well as port the throttle body.  Is there anything im missing?  I don't want this car completely raced out its still going to be a daily driver so what cams should I buy from JWT?  And do I need to upgrade the clutch, and a light weight flywheel?  I was also considering the unorthodox pulleys?  As you can see there is a lot on my mind.  So any suggestions would be much appreciated.  Thanks guys!

If you want to go big do;

- I/H/midpipe/E
- Custom grind cams
- Ported intake manifold
- Ported throttle body
- Ported cylinder head
- JWT BSR
- 11.5:1 compression pistons
- 07 crank
- JWT or custom valve springs
- JWT flywheel/clutch
- Megasquirt for engine management
- UR crank pulley

This setup should give you about 200-210whp with 7200-7500rpm redline. JWT valve springs are good to only 7200rpm so if you want to rev more you need custom valve springs...

This setup will cost around 3-5k or more when its all done.

If you want to keep it simple, just do; I/H/midpipe/E/JWT cams/JWT BSR/Ported intake manifold & throttle body/UR crank pulley/SAFC-II or NEO for tuning. That setup will give you 175-180whp, without putting a hole in your vallet...

The EASIEST way how to make power with this car is to buy a Treadstone turbo kit, trust me... I have been fully bolted, dynoed at 181whp/180wtq and the car was still slow...


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2008-12-03 01:04:55 (5 weeks 2 days 14 hours 53 minutes 9 seconds) #1941662 | | view posts since this          #14 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

Hey thanks everyone for all your great info!!!  Yeah I'm going to do the basic for now I/E/H and some koni yellows with the eibach prokit.  I think im going to have to save up for a while until I can get everything. 
Thanks again

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2008-12-05 22:41:56 (4 weeks 6 days 17 hours 16 minutes 8 seconds) #1945131 | | view posts since this          #15 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

hey good luck in cali man. header will void warranty at most dealers also wont pass smog. so basicly you get some internals (bsr, valves, cams, stuff like that) and catback and intake before you go so far as making it un smogable in cali. unless you know someone but thats a different story. i have been looking for ways around the cali smog for a while


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2008-12-05 22:52:43 (4 weeks 6 days 17 hours 5 minutes 21 seconds) #1945159 | | view posts since this          #16 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

I'd say its not worth it to dive to deep with the N/A mods.....I'd just keep it simple with an IHE and maybe Safc and cams.....


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2008-12-06 01:06:11 (4 weeks 6 days 14 hours 51 minutes 53 seconds) #1945242 | | view posts since this          #17 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

yea i wanted to push 200whp N/A but it really isnt feesable, you might as well go F/I...im thinking about it but really dont have the cash


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2008-12-06 01:43:18 (4 weeks 6 days 14 hours 14 minutes 46 seconds) #1945255 | | view posts since this          #18 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

06chill wrote:

hey good luck in cali man. header will void warranty at most dealers also wont pass smog. so basicly you get some internals (bsr, valves, cams, stuff like that) and catback and intake before you go so far as making it un smogable in cali. unless you know someone but thats a different story. i have been looking for ways around the cali smog for a while

Headers don't void warranties anywhere.


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2008-12-06 12:52:15 (4 weeks 6 days 3 hours 5 minutes 49 seconds) #1945475 | | view posts since this          #19 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

so your telling me that if you have an o2 sensor code and you have replaced your precat with a header and you take it to the dealer they will replace your o2 for free, or what if you had a p0420. are they going to replace your precat that you dont have anymore, no sir.... unless you get a nice tech but i see lots of tecs at the shop i work at who would not replace it and would make you pay for it. so yes it does void some parts of your warranty.

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2008-12-07 01:21:02 (4 weeks 5 days 14 hours 37 minutes 2 seconds) #1945989 | | view posts since this          #20 

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Re: Suggestions for an all motor car???

Yeah California is really gay on the smog issues man.  Ive been told more times then I can remember, that aftermarket headers will not pass smog in cali they do the sniffer test and visual inspection.  Its really hard to even get someone to pass you, because now im told they dont give you a paper to take to dmv, its all dont via computer now.  So it looks like every 2yrs I will take off the header. lol

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