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2008-12-02 14:00:20 (5 weeks 3 days 5 hours 37 minutes 41 seconds) #1940830 | | view posts since this          #1 

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What coilover should i go with?

Yo people! I posted an earlier thread asking ya guys what i should go with when it comes to cheaper bolt-ons for my 06 Spec V.  As a result, i decided to do the RSB and the under brace.  However, after that i will have the money this spring to get some coilovers for my orange peel.  These are the coilovers that I'm interested in buying:

Ksports GT Pro Coilovers
JIC Magic FLT-FAS Coilovers
OR  TEIN SS Coilovers

My outlook is to have a great ride (cause I drive my car everyday in the summer) along with a great suspension feel on the track.
Any info or experiences with these coilovers from ya guys would be great.

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Re: What coilover should i go with?

will you actually be doing track events  and have you done them?



if you plan on doing tracke vents go with coilovers, i personally have tein ss coilovers and love them, it took me about 3-4 months to get them adjusted perfectly to where i wanted them, but not i love them, perfect belnd of street driveability with track handling



if you have the money go with the jic's but ill tell you the teins are just fine, and overhaul for them is cheap, but ill tell you right now mine have about 20k miles on them, and not one problem yet, nor do i see any wear and tear on them, and ive put them through a track event, lots of drag, and harsh street driving


but honestly coilovers unless you plan on doing some sort of track events are useless for street driving as youll never really use them for what theyre suppose to on the street


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

i would stay away from the ksports. if you want comfort then go with the teins. they hold up well in autocross and at the track too. if you want a even better performer and don't mind a more harsh ride go with the jics.


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

JIC out of those 3 without a doubt.


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

yeah, no no on the ksports


the jics, ive never messed with, but honestly the big thing with coilovers is not the price, its the users ability to set them


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

dont even waste your time with ksports.


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yeah im here local with ksport cuz theyre in chandler in az and even i wouldnt buy from them, i had them, and honestly they were on theyre way out when i got rid of them, i had about 10k miles on em and i would doubt it if those ksports lasted abother 5-10k miles


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

Yeah, i was thinking bout going with the JIC or the Ksports GT Pro Coilovers....I do not want to go with the basics from them, but I wanna hear what you guys would have to say about your experiences with you suspension setup.  I heard alot of people going with the Tein SS though.  Honestly, i really dont care bout the ride, the stiffer the better (for some reason i like extremely stiff rides, maybe im wierd or to see my g/f's boobies jiggle...i dunno. lol)


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

no no on the ksports, if you go with tiens ss or kill yourself


like i said jics are nice, but you should be able to get the same performance out of the ss's as the jic's, like i said the maint hing here is knowing how to adjust them to your use, not the price


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

take everyone's advice and do NOT get ksports.  i have ss's and love them for dd'ing and track.  jics are overrated.


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shock+spring setup is best.  period


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^^^^ i couldn't disagree with you more.


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

Ksports are out of the list....just gotta debate b/w Tein and JIC's, but if I go wit JIC's should i still stick wit there basics or got wit the TAR model.....i dont understand the difference. is it cause it has 5 more damper options...?

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Re: What coilover should i go with?

sticky667 wrote:

shock+spring setup is best.  period

true, but this is ony true when you perfectly match a shock and spring combo


a coilover setup is essentially this, but is also adjustable


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

shock spring combos are adjustable too with a sleeve.  the amount you will pay for a unit already put together.. you can build one that performs 100x better with quality parts for roughly the same price

coilovers aren't magically 'perfectly matched'.


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

sticky667 wrote:

shock+spring setup is best.  period

What would you suggest for a shock and spring combo?


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you can build one that performs 100x better with quality parts for roughly the same price

riiiiggghhhht thats why most people that actually track their cars use shock and spring combos over coilover setups  smiley-rolleyes





you will have more adjustability with coilovers then a shock and spring combo


you will
have (if properly tuned) a more agressive suspension with a coilover setup

but you will also pay more


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JIC out of those 3 without a doubt.

QFT.  I've beat on mine for 56k and they ride like the day I bought 'em.


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omar wrote:

sticky667 wrote:

you can build one that performs 100x better with quality parts for roughly the same price

riiiiggghhhht thats why most people that actually track their cars use shock and spring combos over coilover setups  smiley-rolleyes





you will have more adjustability with coilovers then a shock and spring combo


you will
have (if properly tuned) a more agressive suspension with a coilover setup

but you will also pay more


you always get what you pay for

you're wrong but ok

and actually if you read the nasa or scca forums.. people who are winning are using shock/spring (koni/gc) combos more often than "pre-built coilovers"

if you read what i said.. you can build a "coilover" for roughly the same price as the cheap shit people are buying and the performance would be 100x better

koni shocks with sleeves and eibach race springs with a camber plate. basically a "coilover" with QUALITY parts.   koni/gc setup with any rate you want are ~850.. another ~350 for GC camber plate = 1200$ for the same price as Tein or JIC.


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

Honestly man, I recommend reading through what this guy has to say.
It is a different perspective.
It is true data and information from an engineer who applies the principles to racing/auto X and what not.
Gives reasoning behind his information
This is a great resource

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Re: What coilover should i go with?

damn...you guys have pretty good perspectives.  smiley-bounce


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

MisterNuts wrote:

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JIC out of those 3 without a doubt.

QFT.  I've beat on mine for 56k and they ride like the day I bought 'em.

Where did you purchase your Coilover setup? How much?


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

when you say spring and strut combo, most people think of eibach springs with kyb gr2 struts or something like that. Many people think of the koni/gc setup a coil-over strut setup like the pre-assembled setups sold by tein and jic. but yes, the koni/gc setup is the best.


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

02SERious wrote:

when you say spring and strut combo, most people think of eibach springs with kyb gr2 struts or something like that. Many people think of the koni/gc setup a coil-over strut setup like the pre-assembled setups sold by tein and jic. but yes, the koni/gc setup is the best.

Yea, i heard that setup was pretty good. hmmmmm.........smiley-eyebrow


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

I wish I had 700 bucks man.


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

well that's going to be less than what you're gonna be spending on teins or jics. you might want to talk to the seller if you are at all interested.


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

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omar wrote:

sticky667 wrote:

you can build one that performs 100x better with quality parts for roughly the same price

riiiiggghhhht thats why most people that actually track their cars use shock and spring combos over coilover setups  smiley-rolleyes





you will have more adjustability with coilovers then a shock and spring combo


you will
have (if properly tuned) a more agressive suspension with a coilover setup

but you will also pay more


you always get what you pay for

you're wrong but ok

and actually if you read the nasa or scca forums.. people who are winning are using shock/spring (koni/gc) combos more often than "pre-built coilovers"

if you read what i said.. you can build a "coilover" for roughly the same price as the cheap shit people are buying and the performance would be 100x better

koni shocks with sleeves and eibach race springs with a camber plate. basically a "coilover" with QUALITY parts.   koni/gc setup with any rate you want are ~850.. another ~350 for GC camber plate = 1200$ for the same price as Tein or JIC.

technically were both right, but i will tell you this our scene in az for the majority is coilovers, because theyre more simplistic, in the way that as what you said before, a shock and spring combo can cost the same as coilovers, but while theyre not a perfectly matched spring shock combo in a coilover, theyre pretty well damn close to it



coilovers versus a shock and spring combo, is like building your own turbo kit, its not hard, but does require some knowlege of what your doing


OP, whichever you choose, take note, theyre not just bolt ons, and do require adjustment, and lots of trial and error


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

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well that's going to be less than what you're gonna be spending on teins or jics. you might want to talk to the seller if you are at all interested.

Well definitely!  I'll look into tho.  Thanks, like I said I'll have the money in the spring time.

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Re: What coilover should i go with?

look into ground control springs for now, theres a group buy here. ur car is an 06 so ur struts should hold up fine for maybe a year then go for koni yellows and ull be set. unless you want looks then go for a full coilover which you can lower the car by alot and still have decent shock travel. i decided to go the cheap way, it is more work but its worth it to me


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

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look into ground control springs for now, theres a group buy here. ur car is an 06 so ur struts should hold up fine for maybe a year then go for koni yellows and ull be set. unless you want looks then go for a full coilover which you can lower the car by alot and still have decent shock travel. i decided to go the cheap way, it is more work but its worth it to me

it wont last a year if he gos much higher than the stock GC springs even the stock ones are alot higher than stock spec v spring rates. its possible to get em to last a year but dont be set on having them for a full year depending on driving conditions


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

gmarrero89 wrote:

look into ground control springs for now, theres a group buy here. ur car is an 06 so ur struts should hold up fine for maybe a year then go for koni yellows and ull be set. unless you want looks then go for a full coilover which you can lower the car by alot and still have decent shock travel. i decided to go the cheap way, it is more work but its worth it to me

The last car that i had, I went with springs and kept the stock struts and that turned into a nightmare.  The struts only lasted 3 months after I had installed the springs due to the road conditions back then.  It was shit.


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Re: What coilover should i go with?

sticky667 wrote:

shock+spring setup is best.  period

I couldn't agree more...

Eibach Pro-Kit and Koni yellows are one of the best & simplest setups out there...

Non adjust ability has its advantages...


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omar wrote:

but does require some knowlege of what your doing

It requires a LOT of knowledge to get coilovers adjusted right...


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