
Jake

Well as most of you know ive been waiting on getting Lee (03vslow) used turbo kit... Anyways to make a LONG story short it arrived today!!! YAY!!!
. So i decided to post some pics on how it came. Here are some pics of the turbo kit excpet for the exchaust. thanks to Bert (nsogiba) and matt(se-rman6) for all there input and help.



















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you got alot of work cut out for ya. have fun! good luck!



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Derek



make sure you check everything for cracks before you start putting all that stuff on. nothing against the sender but he didnt put any kind of protective packing in the box and shippers arent too careful with things especially heavy things like taht if they have to carry them. they just drop the box a lot the time.
looks like the BOV has a bent vacuum signal tube
if you dont find any, make sure you keep a close eye on everything when you start it up
not trying to scare you, just looking out.
you will have fun with this though, i know i did. boosted is teh shiz
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yeah what a shitty packing job. what wastegate is that anyway, looks like a pos ebay one. better to change it out now before you put it on if so
Naaaah, I believe that's a synapse wg...I've heard both good and bad things about them....Just outta curiousity man, about how much did you pay for the kit?? Hopefully no more than $1500-$2k TOPS. I'd like to know what ppl are paying for used kits, that's is DEFINITELY not the best example. Not a knock on you or anything, it just looks like the last person didn't take too good care of it...Do yourself a BIIIIIG favor and clean ALLLL that stuff up reaaaaal good before you install it on the car. I'd check all the piping and turbo/exhaust parts for cracks and holes and such. It looks like there is a good bit of oil on that manifold and turbo. Go over that turbo and make sure it doesn't have excessive side to side shaft play, and NO in-out play WHATSOVER. Check the compressor and exhaust wheels to make sure they aren't chipped or damaged in any way. Make sure you have an oil restrictor on that turbo, because it looks like an ebay unit and I wouldn't wanna run that SOB at all without a restrictor. I hope you didn't pay too much, because if you didn't it really is a good starting point. Go buy some fresh mandrel bends from JCWhitney or Racing Solutions and just cut them to match up with what you already have. It won't cost you too much and everything will look ALOT cleaner if you'll do so. I'd replace anything that looks tha least bit sketchy, especially the inexpensive stuff cause it won't set you back much, and in the long run you'll be happier. Good luck with it, I wouldn't buy a used kit MYSELF, but I'd like to see it work out nice for someone else.

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Jake

yea i deff plan on cleaning things up real nice!.. ill be getting a new b.o.v and boost controller soon. After i have everything i will need the cleaning process will begin as ill be cleaning each peice extremely well... its WAY 2 new for anything to go wrong this early. I paid $3250 for the kit was DEFF not worth it! i also just checked over the exhaust and there's about a 2-3 inch hole in the muffler but the rest of the exhaust is in good shape besides the minor bumps and bruises from being used... Sry 4 no pics ill try and post up them when i get a chance...other then that i cant wait for boost lol!!!
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716Spec-V wrote:
yea i deff on plan on cleaning things up real nice!.. ill be getting a new b.o.v and boost controller and cleaning everything extremely well... Also im taking the turbo to a shop i know that specialize in turbos and having them check everything out before i even put anything on my car because its WAY 2 new for anything to go wrong this early. I paid $3250 for the kit was DEFF not worth it! i also just checked over the exhaust and there's about a 2-3 inch hole in the muffler the rest of the exhaust is in good shape... ill post up pics when i get a chance...other then that i cant wait for boost lol!!!
;( i think you got fucked man.

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I hate to say it... but i don't think that was worth the 3 month wait...
there's people selling really nice treadstone kits barely used for $2500 or less on here...

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Jake

ya just needs some work..... hopefully i can work something out with him and maybe get some money back.... and Bert why do you think i got fucked i know the price was high but...?
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jake i just think you paid too much thats all. i had no idea til now how much you put down. they seem like pretty good pieces, just probably not worth $3K. and after all you went through to get that kit, i doubt he's gonna wanna give you money back...

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Jake

true bro he seems cheap...lol but its deff a good starting point, plus i got u and matt to help me along the way and also this site! im pretty shere things will work out by the time i plan on the install for now im ganna slowly get things checked out and finish putting it together thanks everyone!!
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Is that an ebay turbo? Good luck with the kit, needs some tlc for sure. Its worth it in the end.
Lifes to short to drive a shitty car, get in a Spec V-T
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Jake

nope its a garret t3/t4 .70 ar that has been rebuilt. And trust me im ganna give it ALOT of tlc....
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Jake

LOL, i cant wait!!! YUUMMM BOOOOST!!!
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like you said man, just check EVERYTHING over very good and you should be ok
keep us updated and make sure everything checks out ok and hopefully you'll feel the joy soon
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that wastegate looks like a synapse synchronic
here one for comparison
thats a very good wastegate, can be adjusted from 8-22 psi if im not mistaken, and named sema 2007 best product
also if im not mistaken, stuff broken during shipping would not be on the sellers part, but it would have actually be on the shippers part, and if you got insurance you would file a claim with them
though i do see where people are coming from with the horrible shipping, and lack of use of bable wrap and packing peanuts

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I haven't paid over $2000 for either of my turbo kits, and they were really nice with Protech parts, etc.
I just hope it works out for you and you don't have to put out a lot of money for it to work correctly.

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Jake

thanks guys and girls i hope things do work out....
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Jeff


That kit was first custom made for my car by eloy and ran great however im not going to lie after seeing those picks it looks like it went through hell. When i sold and shipped it, it was in much better shape, That BOV has like custom built internals by me and sounds amazing (if it still works). The manifold looks like it was not set right on lee's car which is wierd because when i took it off it was in flawless shape along with the paint and all of that looks really dirty and the intercooler makes me cringe..... I loved that kit and made good numbers with it, i just hope it still outputs as well as it once did.
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716Spec-V wrote:
nope its a garret t3/t4 .70 ar that has been rebuilt. And trust me im ganna give it ALOT of tlc....
That's a Ebay turbo.. 250.00 special.. 
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because the seller really dicked you around, i wouldn't send it back... because i bet he's already spent your money and it's long gone. another shitty thing about this situation...

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Trav4011 wrote:
716Spec-V wrote:
nope its a garret t3/t4 .70 ar that has been rebuilt. And trust me im ganna give it ALOT of tlc....
That's a Ebay turbo.. 250.00 special..
those pictures dont really justify this, you cant tell if it is

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thats not a ebay turbo. Its a legit garret turbo with a XS power compressor cover. The turbo was bought from garret direct without the housing on it do to a mistake and basically got half off on the turbo because of it and simply bought a xs comp cover for 35 bucks and it was a direct fit. If you look at the exhaust turbine and the screws its obviously a garret because they use a certain pattern bolt. However that was when i had the kit and sold it and now alot has changed on it. The turbo though if it was the original one was a garret.
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Alright after looking at the kit the other day Id have to say that yes he paid a lil to much for it, but he also got a full 3in stromung exhaust with it and 3 in downpipe. Also yes that is def a synapse wastegate. The intercooler piping did not have any holes in it but the hot side piping was 2in and the cold side is 2 1/2in for whatever reason. He should prolly get 2 1/2in for the hot side as well but we'll see. The intercooler will def work but it is in rough shape, I would really suggest getting a new one. As for the turbo it is a nicely rebuilt turbo with a garret exhaust housing and all garret internals, the compressor housing is off brand maybe xs i didnt really look at that to much, but its in good shape. Im not to sure about the bov but if you said you had it rebuilt with good internals jeff then it should still be good and for whatever reason 03vslow bent the vacumn tube of it to make it fit better or something idk. I have no idea why the turbo manifold is all covered in oil but its going to get hit with a lot of degreaser and then I can have it taken to get ported out by a buddy. The mani doesnt look to have any cracks but we will be able to better tell later on when it gets cleaned. The kit also came with a innovative wideband but Id say that might need a new sensor not sure yet tho. It came with all neccesary gauges but idk wtf he did to them cause they look beat to shit and almost melted. All in all yes the kit was not worth what he paid for it but it also has a lot of good points to it aswell, Overall I think its a decent kit but just needs some love cause 03vslow did not take care of this kit. It will need a couple things but I know what he'll need to get already so it shouldnt be to bad. The kit should be alright just take a lil tlc to get it going

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according to jake, the previous owner of the kit blew a headgasket, and that's why the manifold is covered in oil....although that doesn't make sense to me. wouldn't it be covered in coolant?

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nsogiba wrote:
according to jake, the previous owner of the kit blew a headgasket, and that's why the manifold is covered in oil....although that doesn't make sense to me. wouldn't it be covered in coolant?
correct, and even coolant wouldnt go all over like that. I think its from when the old turbo blew and the guy never cleaned the stuff

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Jake

yea the price was deff a rip, and it sounded like bs to me when he said it was a headgasket that blew. It clearly shows he just never took care of cleaning it before reinstalling it... some people are just jokes, what can ya say.... Im ganna order a new piping kit and new intercooler to be safe along with that other stuff! and Soon ill giving this kit some much needed TLC and be getting it back to were it needs to be before its installed. And just to be super safe im having Mike from Innovative Tuning tomorrow look everything over close up!! thanks to a good friend of mine... and once again thanks again 4 ur help Matt, Bert and myspecv.com
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716Spec-V wrote:
yea the price was deff a rip, and it sounded like bs to me when he said it was a headgasket that blew. It clearly shows he just never took care of cleaning it before reinstalling it... some people are just jokes, what can ya say.... I think im also ganna order a new piping kit and new intercooler to be safe along with that other stuff! Soon ill giving this kit some much needed TLC and be getting it back to were it needs to be before its installed. Also just to be super safe im having Mike from Innovative Tuning tomorrow look everything over close up!! thanks to a good friend of mine... and once again thanks again 4 ur help Matt and Bert and myspecv.com
jake i wouldnt bother taking it to innovative, he just going to tell you the same thing i told you if not try and get you to spend some more money. If you want tho have him take a look, ill be there at 10 tom getting my car retuned

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Jake

hmmm yea true he prob will try and soak me for more money but at least we can find out what kind of shape the turbo mani, turbo, and intercooler are in.....
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thats not a ebay turbo. Its a legit garret turbo with a XS power compressor cover. The turbo was bought from garret direct without the housing on it do to a mistake and basically got half off on the turbo because of it and simply bought a xs comp cover for 35 bucks and it was a direct fit. If you look at the exhaust turbine and the screws its obviously a garret because they use a certain pattern bolt. However that was when i had the kit and sold it and now alot has changed on it. The turbo though if it was the original one was a garret.
You may be correct.. but, I will say this.. That is HIGHLY unlikely, simply because the "T3/T4" that gets tossed around on ebay has a rather small 46mm T04E compressor wheel. Garrett doesn't sell a "off the shelf" turbo with this compressor wheel. It is super old, and outdated, which is probably why the Chinese got thier hands on it so easily. It's not a "57 trim", like they claim on Ebay. That being said.. it is highly unlikely that you would have Garrett center section with that wheel, in T3/T04E configuration.
The exhaust housing is a 5 bolt "ford" housing, commonly used by almost all of the turbo manufacturers. The knockoff Ebay turbos have this 5 bolt housing as well.
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This is a pic of the turbine housing that the buyer posted..
This is a pic of the housing of a XS power turbo..
Here is what a Garrett T3, 5 bolt exhaust housing looks like..
I'll try to find a better pic.. but, you can see a few things, even from this pic, that distinguish it from the XS power housing.. The flange thickness is the biggest thing.. The XS turbo has a much thinner flange. That casting shape is different as well.. The circle that's cast into the XS turbo's (shown in the pic), isn't on a Garrett OEM 5 bolt housing, either.. I'll try to find a pic..
To further my point.. Garrett doesn't even sell a 5 bolt housing in it's T3/T04E shelf stock turbochargers.. You can only get a 4 bolt T31 or GT style housing. The 5 bolt is used by all of the aftermarket turbocharger manufacturers.. but, Garrett only uses it for the Ford and Buick OEM stuff. None of which have a compressor that will fit the XS power compressor cover.
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well i bought the turbo from garret it was a 4 bolt housing but i requested for a 5 bolt because at the time i was going to do a internally wastegated setup. Garret said it would not be a problem to get the 5-bolt. Im not saying the turbo that he got is not a ebay but im saying the turbo i originally had was a genuine slightly modiefied garret turbocharger that i sold with the kit. I dont know if he bought a completly new turbo or actually rebuilt the garret one. Ill look through my old pics later and post them showing what i had when i sold it. The hot side piping is 2" for efficiency, it has less volume and will spool quicker and the air will expand as it leaves the IC allowing for more cooling. Its a old Buick Grand National trick.
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Not accusing you of anything, Jeff.. I know that this kit was handed around a bit.. Just stating the facts as I see them, in regards to the pics posted.
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Trav4011 wrote:
Not accusing you of anything, Jeff.. I know that this kit was handed around a bit.. Just stating the facts as I see them, in regards to the pics posted.
o i know your not and im just curious myself about all this and how that manifold got filled with oil. I just loved this kit when i had it but alotttttt has changed with it lol so honestly you guys prob know more about it then me 
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The guy I buy my turbos from says that he can rebuild Ebay turbo's with Garrett internals and wheels, but it takes some machining, etc. etc...so it's a possibility. And the part about your hot side piping being 2", that won't really hurt anything, but i'd go ahead and replace the piping anyway since it looks like crap. I can't believe you paid $3,250 for that stuff. My stuff is all MUCH cleaner and nicer than that, and I wouldn't charge that for it. Probaly more like $2,500-$2,750. But it sounds like you're keeping a positive outlook on it and that's great. Just do the best you can with what you have. You're lucky to have some friends that have previously turbocharged one of these cars. That will help out a shitload.

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Ok that turbo im pretty sure is the original garret turbo i had. All i know is 03v had some initial issues and i helped him out with them and apparently the lines going to the original WG were setup wrong and the turbo overspooled and i was told he blew his headgasket and the turbo seals completly went out. Basically the WG and the turbo had to be replaced. He said he was going to send it into garret to have it rebuilt.
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Jake

well to put things to rest i had the turbo checked out by innovative Tuning and they said that there was no shaft play and that it also has garret internals...but theres still alot of things im going to change ill keep you guys updated...
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good to hear man. did they clean the turbo up for you after they got done taking a look at it?
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Jake

nah they just looked the turbo over and found no shaft play thank god... They also told me it had Garrett internals and that it just needs to be cleaned up really well...ill post better pics of the turbo and the exhaust when i get a chance to use Berts camera again lol....
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specVmatt wrote:
kind of weird that 03vslow isnt posting in here.
i never seen this thread.......till i talked to jake earlier today. i didnt pack that box, it was repacked at a ups store, i used packing nuts and shirked wrapped the box on the orignal box dont know what happened to everything.
the turbo is fine. i had it rebuilt so i know it works, with garret parts which i had a local shop do.
i blew my headgasket and oil seals, thats why theres oil in the manifold.
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so ups opened your package, removed the shrink wrap, threw away the packing peanuts, soaked the cardboard box in oil, tossed everything around, then smashed it back in the box? idk dude....i've used UPS too many times to count and i've never ever had an experience like that.

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Jake

yea Mike is the man!!!! but i deff gotta do alot of cleaning and hopefully in the end things do work out.....
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