cooked pistons from 05 AltimaSER

SER02 · 2008-10-23 09:25:58

Here are some of the images from the original motor's internals. this motor was driven on a base map from Tampa(AKA Z-fever) to Jacksonville, NC. started smoking about 100 miles from my house, and I didn't take it over 4000 RPMs.

Mike said if it wasn't for the oil squirters on the back side, it would have definatly seized.

I was thinking back to when I picked up the car.
I arrived in the morning, and Doug the owner of Z-fever started it up. said it was running great, but still needed a little street tuning. I left for 4 hours, and when I get back doug is like, "hey man, was this motor good when you bought it? it has knock"... real interesting. at the time I was kind of dumb about cars and kind of just let it go. but I am willing to bet they fucked it up on the street tune. for one, the car had 2 year old fuel, which they tuned it on.
two, the tuner "Martin", tells me its cool, he has seen these rev to 7400rpms safely. WTF?
Once I got another motor in it and retune, I find out they didn't even configure the Wide Band, and that the map was barely touched.

I dropped the motor off to my buddy Mike(AKA Axle). don24 and I dubbed him this because while we were putting in this last motor working on the harness, he asked if he could do the axles. no shit, he had the axles in, brackets scewed down and wheels on in 5 minutes. hes one of those Mechanics whom god blessed with supernatural powers, and the ability to do anything perfect, and within a timeframe that no mere mortal could comprehend.

Mike says it was running lean, however the motor now has the same symptoms... and it is not running lean. I do have 2 WB sensors(gauge and ECU). any imput would help.. I have got to get this figured out before I get another motor.

Motor in pieces, mike in heaven

Mike is badass

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nsogiba · 2008-10-23 09:47:12

well, go bitch to that shop for starters.

Trav4011 · 2008-10-23 12:55:20

Z-Fever sucks... I wouldn't let Martin work on my bicycle..

That's definitely a detonation issue.. which can either be fuel, or timing... If you say that it's rich on the wideband, then, I would say timing too far advanced is your issue.

Travis

boogerboy72 · 2008-10-23 13:29:17

holy shit. that shit got hot.

06STImatt · 2008-10-23 14:37:46

like martin from XAT racing?

Yogi B · 2008-10-23 15:46:37

Holy motors from hell!

when the timing and/or fuel are that far off how do you start?

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SER02 · 2008-10-23 17:13:02

Trav4011 wrote:
Z-Fever sucks... I wouldn't let Martin work on my bicycle..

That's definitely a detonation issue.. which can either be fuel, or timing... If you say that it's rich on the wideband, then, I would say timing too far advanced is your issue.

Travis

Woah, Woah, Woah,,.....

You got the 411 on Z-fever? please do tell. How the hell do you know martin??? I am truly interested, maybe I will be able to understand a bit about their business conduct.

nismored · 2008-10-23 18:23:51

dude, jump on tamparacing.com for a few minutes and search for shit about Z-fever. The owner is a fucking coke head and he has scammed a bunch of people out of a shit load of money. Z fever is a fucking cover for the mob or some shit cuz this is not the first car they have fucked up. I only know from what is on that site. Check it out dude.

axles03ser · 2008-10-23 18:25:36

hey man looks great, i told u it was a detonation issue and travis confirmed it, if u r running rich timing is too advanced, turn the timing down some on the next one and you'll run fine and shouldnt have any issues. if u want we can swap out a motor at my place. let me know something.

axles03ser · 2008-10-23 18:29:09

i called z-fever just cuz they are in my home town and just asked about a vq swap cuz james said they finished his, they told me that it would be around 9000 for a swap, i told them thats ok ill just send it to travis if im gonna do the vq swap.

SER02 · 2008-10-23 18:43:53

nismored wrote:
dude, jump on tamparacing.com for a few minutes and search for shit about Z-fever. The owner is a fucking coke head and he has scammed a bunch of people out of a shit load of money. Z fever is a fucking cover for the mob or some shit cuz this is not the first car they have fucked up. I only know from what is on that site. Check it out dude.

Great, glad to find that out now. I remember hearing him bitch about someone sueing him. and he whined alot about wiring up my standalone.... geez, wish I had known.... thanks I am gonna do a bit of research.

and mike, I might be coming down there sooner than you know. I have no where to perform a swap now... thanks buddy

axles03ser · 2008-10-23 18:46:39

no problem just give me a call and we will swap that thing out in a day let me know something so we can get u running again cant have a spec down to long

06STImatt · 2008-10-23 19:12:38

ok so i must be think of a different martin lol, not martin from xat racing.

boogerboy72 · 2008-10-23 19:14:06

SER02 wrote:
nismored wrote:
dude, jump on tamparacing.com for a few minutes and search for shit about Z-fever. The owner is a fucking coke head and he has scammed a bunch of people out of a shit load of money. Z fever is a fucking cover for the mob or some shit cuz this is not the first car they have fucked up. I only know from what is on that site. Check it out dude.
Great, glad to find that out now. I remember hearing him bitch about someone sueing him. and he whined alot about wiring up my standalone.... geez, wish I had known.... thanks I am gonna do a bit of research.

and mike, I might be coming down there sooner than you know. I have no where to perform a swap now... thanks buddy

i thought you did your swap

06STImatt · 2008-10-23 20:59:51

im pretty sure he had a shop do his.

SER02 · 2008-10-23 21:16:25

yep, many

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Trav4011 · 2008-10-23 21:26:10

So, when is the car going to come to Louisiana?

SER02 · 2008-10-24 08:57:49

Trav4011 wrote:
So, when is the car going to come to Louisiana?

i ain't gonna lie, I really like my standalone. but it is getting to be a major pain-in-the-ass. SOMEONE HAS KNOW HOW TO TUNE A VQ...

ChRiSSpec_V · 2008-10-24 09:45:18

Hot dam that sucks bro, take that shit to a reputable shop and have that shit tuned once you get it swapped.

SER02 · 2008-10-24 10:17:07

nismored wrote:
dude, jump on tamparacing.com for a few minutes and search for shit about Z-fever. The owner is a fucking coke head and he has scammed a bunch of people out of a shit load of money. Z fever is a fucking cover for the mob or some shit cuz this is not the first car they have fucked up. I only know from what is on that site. Check it out dude.

Dude, I am not by any means sticking up for z-fever, but there isn't any negative shit that I could find on tamparacing. I spent 30 minutes looking through the forums. maybe the admin fucked with some shit, but all positve from that site.... I mean there is nothing on them at all.... you got a link?

Trav4011 · 2008-10-24 13:51:31

SER02 wrote:
Trav4011 wrote:
So, when is the car going to come to Louisiana?
i ain't gonna lie, I really like my standalone. but it is getting to be a major pain-in-the-ass. SOMEONE HAS KNOW HOW TO TUNE A VQ...

Dude.. put a fresh engine in, and let me put a tuned ECU/harness in the car. You will have full functionality, and you won't have to worry about it. Unless you just have horrible luck, like Dave.

Sorry Dave.. I had to..

Travis

Trav4011 · 2008-10-24 13:53:18

SER02 wrote:
nismored wrote:
dude, jump on tamparacing.com for a few minutes and search for shit about Z-fever. The owner is a fucking coke head and he has scammed a bunch of people out of a shit load of money. Z fever is a fucking cover for the mob or some shit cuz this is not the first car they have fucked up. I only know from what is on that site. Check it out dude.
Dude, I am not by any means sticking up for z-fever, but there isn't any negative shit that I could find on tamparacing. I spent 30 minutes looking through the forums. maybe the admin fucked with some shit, but all positve from that site.... I mean there is nothing on them at all.... you got a link?

I don't know about TampaRacing, but, I know that Z-Fever sucks. I have several customers in the Tampa area, and I've spent a lot of time out there. So, I get the scoop about the local shops. It's not that they're incapable of doing decent work.. it's just that the owner is a scammer, and tries to cheap out, while charging premium prices.

SER02 · 2008-10-24 19:57:48

Thanks for the info... I kind of got that impression when I went down there. Doug is a whiner.

On another note, I truley want to solve the issue. I really like the cable TB and MAP, and being able to tune. there are a lot of different options with the setup (ITB's). I know so many people running standalones, and dont have any issues. it all really boils down to the tuner. There are a lot of VQ 240s without any issues(running VQswap's setup). I figure it is just something simple, that I have yet to discover. I hope with school and experience I can pinpoint it. If I can't, I will bring it to you Travis, cause I am getting really frustrated.

James

axles03ser · 2008-10-24 20:07:09

james just get an ecu and wiring harness from travis and we will swap your motor out

Trav4011 · 2008-10-25 01:22:25

SER02 wrote:
Thanks for the info... I kind of got that impression when I went down there. Doug is a whiner.

On another note, I truley want to solve the issue. I really like the cable TB and MAP, and being able to tune. there are a lot of different options with the setup (ITB's). I know so many people running standalones, and dont have any issues. it all really boils down to the tuner. There are a lot of VQ 240s without any issues(running VQswap's setup). I figure it is just something simple, that I have yet to discover. I hope with school and experience I can pinpoint it. If I can't, I will bring it to you Travis, cause I am getting really frustrated.

James

I hear ya.. but, no standalone powered vehicle will ever be as solid as a stock/tune factoru ECU/harness. Standalone's are quirky.. and unless you really know what you're doing, things can go wrong in a hurry. I know that people say they run standalones, and never have any problems, but, that's a load of BS. While they may be able to fix the problem right away, and it may be insignifigant.. that doesn't mean that EVERYONE can do this. You have to know what you're doing. Not knocking you, or your experience.. just saying..

Travis

06STImatt · 2008-10-25 13:17:24

travis, how about the next time your in tampa you shoot me a phone call. you can see my new 400whp setup. and we can grab some grub or something. you talk like your in tampa all of the time.. so bring on the hone call!

06STImatt · 2008-10-25 13:18:00

wtf..

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