to be able to tune yourself which you need to do, because if you bring it to a dyno to be tuned,....sure they will tune it with their wideband, but you will never no when your tune drifts and when you need to reset the ecu to go back to your tune. So, get a safc of sorts, a wideband, and a datalogger if you wanna make the tunning easy on yourself.
So NEO
wideband
datalogger.
then tune your car btw you'll need a laptop to datalog.

So in terms of a wideband and a datalogger what units are accurate and reliable as well as relatively cheap(er). I've been doing a lot of reading and come to the conclusions (and I may be wrong) that the top 3 choices would be the AEM UEGO, The Innovate LC-1 or LM-1 or teh Zeitronix ZT-2.

Are there any benefits or drawbacks to these 3? Datalogging capabilities (I have read mixed things about the UEGO for example), ease of installation, setup and use?
I have been doing so much reading on these things and feel that while I understand a lot better now how they work, their individual differences still seem unclear to me.

Thanks for the input so far..


BTW I have also been reading and trying to absorb the thread how-to be a noob w/ SAFC2 and a wideband - "Learning Curve"

It has been quite informative for me as well but the more information I get the better I will feel.

So, I understand that a datalogger isn't %100 necessary but assuming that I'm going to get one, which one do you recommend?
I'm basically looking at the Innovate LC-1, LM-1, AEM UEGO (but limited or no datalogging?) or the Zeitronix ZT-2.

Most likely the LC-1 based on price and ability to datalog.

I'm pretty sure you can datalog with the LC-1 you just need a laptop to do it. With the LM-1 you can datalog directly in the unit itself and then view on there or later transfer the data to a laptop.

05SpecVnBlack wrote:

Givenher Boost wrote:

I'm pretty sure you can datalog with the LC-1 you just need a laptop to do it. With the LM-1 you can datalog directly in the unit itself and then view on there or later transfer the data to a laptop.

Siigggghhhh....YOU CANNOT DATALOG WITH JUST THE LC-1, I REPEAT YOU CANNOT...I have a LC-1 AND a laptop and I cannot datalog...I can hook my laptop up to one of the port wires on the LC-1 and a guage will show up on my screen that shows realtime AFR's, but I cannot datalog as far as showing my afr's and what RPM's they occur at. Think about it, the LC-1 is only hooked up to the O2 sensor which is in your exhaust. It isn't hooked up to your engine at any other place(well, except for a ground and 12volt source, but that isn't really your engine). How would it be reading engine RPM and voltage and temp and all that good shit which a datalogger does. YOU HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER UNIT THAT PLUGS INTO YOU LC-1 AND WIRES INTO YOUR ENGINE ELSEWHERE in order to datalog. Believe me man, I own one. Have for over a year. I know what it does and doesn't do.

This man speaks the troof.

Ok I get it now. Thanks for the explaining. That's what I was looking for. You say you have the LC-1, in terms of AFR then is it good?
I also recently discovered this one from PLX devices which looks good and easy to install. PLX Devices SM-AFR DM-100
What do you think of this one? In terms of AFR and the ability add other peripheral devices?