
Dave



I got my car running again my fix seems to be holding fine but it starts really hard any thoughts as to what it might be?
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Batman



Sorry, I'm no help. Glad for you that it's up and running






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yea!
chrisspec had the same problem
it was a loose pin
ask him

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My issue was the Green and Blue connectors on the back of the intake manifold. These two connectors control TPS, CAM and Crank sensors. All I did was pull the connectors apart and checked for loose pins put it back together and it fired right up.
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How long does it take to start? Could be the crank position sensor.
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Dave



it takes a bit it takes 2 or some times 3 tries to start it but once it starts it's fine
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Kael Madsen



Good to hear Dave! 

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Sounds like a bad crank position sensor.. make sure that the plug under the starter, between the bell housing and block is plugged in.
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James




got extra if you need... 

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Dave



I checked the plug its plugged in i found that one of the came sensors the one closest to the radior one of the wires was comming out. so i pusshed it in and it started right up. I went back to it. and it wouldnt start at all messed with it and it would start I dont know now it wont start at all. IM really confused.
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sounds like you've got a bad plug.. You may have accidentally pulled one of the pins out. It's easy to do.. I would try soldering on a new plug. I have one if you need it.
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James




Trav4011 wrote:
sounds like you've got a bad plug.. You may have accidentally pulled one of the pins out. It's easy to do.. I would try soldering on a new plug. I have one if you need it.
I got extra harness to just cut off, it already has a cam sensor attached/plugged in. does it have to be soldered or will it work just fine if I cut the harness on daves car and just attach the sensor to the harness with 3 butt splice?
Last edited by SER02 (2008-10-06 08:06:12)

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Dave



I have tried taking the pin out and taking a piece of wire and putting it down in there and touching the pin it worked at first but I went back an hour later and no go I'm really confused
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Dave



This is really frustrating. I cant figure this out. Its not firing up at all right now. I have checked and tried various things that should have worked I dont know TRavis????
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Dave



I don't know I changed the cam sensor I don't know travis if you have that plug I would aprescate it James lulu was the wrong one. Does it matter that we used a rear cam sensor?
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You cannot mix any of the can/crank sensors on this engine. They are all angled differently, and all read differently. You must use the SAME sensor AND plug.
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Dave



well I'm going today after work to auto zone to get a scan tool. Do you think that will tell me my problem? I mean it was starting really hard before and now it won't start at all. I need to figure this out.
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James




w.
Trav4011 wrote:
You cannot mix any of the can/crank sensors on this engine. They are all angled differently, and all read differently. You must use the SAME sensor AND plug.
I've learned by trial and error the the crank and cam sensors don't work together, but when I pulled the valve covers off, the front and rear cam teeth look the same to me. I understand that the angle is different on the plug. the front one is like this so it does not conflict with the water temp sensor. for some reason my front cam sensor plug is different than daves.
I am going to bring by my soldering kit so we can use his original plug. hopfully that works.

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Dave I tried to use a regular OBD-II scanner at autozone and for some reason it didnt work on my car I had to take it to nissan and use the consult-II
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Dave



great perfect
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Dave



I hope when we soder the plug back together everything is magicly fixed
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James




WhatNissan wrote:
I hope when we soder the plug back together everything is magicly fixed
doughtful

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Dave



I keep playing the symtoms over and over hard to start scince I got it back together but once running runs great then out of nowhere it won't start I messed with a wire in the cam sensor it starts cool. Go back an hour later same problem this keeps happining now I got nothing someone throw some clues?
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Dave



SER02 wrote:
WhatNissan wrote:
I hope when we soder the plug back together everything is magicly fixed
doughtful
Geez do you have to be so negitive?f
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Dave



Trav4011 wrote:
sounds like you've got a bad plug.. You may have accidentally pulled one of the pins out. It's easy to do.. I would try soldering on a new plug. I have one if you need it.
can I get that plug from you travis?
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James




WhatNissan wrote:
Trav4011 wrote:
sounds like you've got a bad plug.. You may have accidentally pulled one of the pins out. It's easy to do.. I would try soldering on a new plug. I have one if you need it.
can I get that plug from you travis?
question is, can we just repair yours or is that just a halfass thing to do?

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Dave



I'm going to try it you got an extenion cord?
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Dave



OK this is so freaking weird..... So i took apart james plug he gave me and used the pins and whatnot from his to fix mine it was a perfect fix. So i pluged it up went to start it and no go. I cussed and threw a fit. Then I was like fuck it ill jump start it maybe its a ground or something. I hooked it up to jumpstart it. and boom it fired right up. So I let it run for a while. shut it off started it again, and it all worked. So me and my wife went for a ride to the store i shut it off there it was fine. I get home and I shut it off and I wanted to make shure cause i got on it alittle. NO go. WTF? SO i jump start it again and it started right up and it worked again. Any ideas????
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Josh




Is your battery toast? simple I know but sounds like it may be charging then when it sit for a little bit its draining...just food for thought i guess
Lifes to short to drive a shitty car, get in a Spec V-T
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Dave



yea but it would still crank normal just not start
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Kael Madsen



You might have either one of the following:
- A bad battery
- A bad alternator
- Something leeching power off of both, whether the car is on or not
I know we had an issue with the Camaro we just built. The ECU was constantly drawing a large amount of voltage, and it was killing the battery when we left it. I'd say check your alt and bat first Dave, and then see if there might be an issue with some of the wiring.

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Bad crank/cam sensor, or bad ground. Did you hook up both grounds near the timing cover? There are 2 bundles of wires bolted down with 2 10mm bolts.
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Dave



There is a ground I was unsure about when putting the motor back in it's on the bundle of wires that go to the altenator I grounded it to the block is that bad?
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Dave



Trav4011 wrote:
Bad crank/cam sensor, or bad ground. Did you hook up both grounds near the timing cover? There are 2 bundles of wires bolted down with 2 10mm bolts.
I never touched those when I pulled the motor
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James




check your ground at the end of the harness, near the battery. there is a wierd one the plugs in right below your battery ground. if it started while it was hooked up to your eclipse then it is definatly a ground. also your cam/crank grounds are supposed to be attached to the timing cover(atleast mine are). check the tranny ground too.

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WhatNissan wrote:
Trav4011 wrote:
Bad crank/cam sensor, or bad ground. Did you hook up both grounds near the timing cover? There are 2 bundles of wires bolted down with 2 10mm bolts.
I never touched those when I pulled the motor
If you pulled the motor you would have had to disconnect those grounds...
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exactly ^^^ check all of the grounds. If the engine is cranking, then, I doubt that it's a bad battery.. But you could have low voltage at the ecu becuse of a bad or incomplete engine ground.
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Dave



that what I was thinking I guess it needs 12.4 volts at the ecu to start I'm going to check all the grounds tonight
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Dave



why would it work before and now it's fuckin up is beyond me
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Dave



ChRiSSpec_V wrote:
WhatNissan wrote:
Trav4011 wrote:
Bad crank/cam sensor, or bad ground. Did you hook up both grounds near the timing cover? There are 2 bundles of wires bolted down with 2 10mm bolts.
I never touched those when I pulled the motor
If you pulled the motor you would have had to disconnect those grounds...
No I didn't I left he whole barnes attached
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im confused... how did you pull a motor without taking off the harness? did you cut it off at the firewall lol
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Dave



no i dissconnected it from under the glove box
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what about the large ground wire that runs from the transmission to the chassis?
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Dave



I hooked up all that I had the same dam problem this morning what the fuck. When I thought I fixed it once it's finally started it will start a few times on it's own
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Sounds like a bad sensor
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Dave



what one?
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WhatNissan wrote:
no i dissconnected it from under the glove box
oooh 10 4
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Dave



well I dissconnected the battary over night re did all my grounds I'm going to see if it starts right up tommorow morning wish me luck
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Dave



good news it started right up this morning doing that bad news my check engine light is on blaring me in he face now how do I fix that I checked you resistor it seems fine any idea travis
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Dave



ok the check engine light is off now
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