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2008-09-25 18:16:13 (14 weeks 6 days 4 hours 42 minutes 11 seconds) #1874173 | | view posts since this          #1 

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Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

So I had the boost bug for a while, thought I had to have a turbo. Only problem is, going to college doesn't exactly leave a whole ton of pocket change sitting around. So, I started thinking about doing nitrous instead. I need some advice on the best company that sells good complete kits. I don't want to put a kit in that I am going to be crying to upgrade after a while, I want to install best of best. Advice at all? Also, what do I need besides what you get in a kit? Thanks in advance for the help! If anyone in the northern Illinois/southern Wisconsin is selling a kit pls let me know!


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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

how much are u tring to spend?
wet kit is the best choice. dont like direct port cuz it's 2x more expensive and has more chances of failing on you.

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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

trying to keep it in the 700-800 range. Direct isnt the best choice? I was under the impression it was the best way to go.


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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

direct port is not bad, it's just more solenoids, more jets, more steel lines, tapping the manifold, watching out for leaks.  It's just basically needs to be more maintained, and it's not worth all that work to get an extra 50 out of it, now were talkinga bout 125 shot but then u need a progressive controller and a tune to make sure your not leaning out.

save the headache and get a wet kit for like 350 and invest in a bottle warmer, dont get the automatic bottle opener cuz it usally fails and thats just being straight lazy, just to open the bottle manually.  you dont need a purge to clean the lines (save that money too).  Some one on b15sentra.net is selling a zex nitrous kit, there one of the top of the line product makers for nitrous.

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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

If you have $800 to spend go to...

www.dynotunenitrous.com

you need for a safe reliable kit...

The basic EFI Kit $399  (single fogger wet kit)

RPM Window Switch
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All the extras are just fun...

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dynotune is good stuff, its the setup im going with after doing LOTS of research as of late.  im in the process of prepping my car for nitrous now.


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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

And direct is a good way to go.... but after doing lots of research on nitrous lately.  If your doing going over a 100shot, which you won't if your budgeting.  A fogger is perfectly fine and safe/reliable plus a lot cheaper.  Since you are a college student, i wouldn't recommend going over a 75 shot just to be even more safe.


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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

You dont need direct port. you will be happy with a 75-80 shot.

Get a Dynotune kit.
Wideband, and bottle warmer.


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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

Wow thanks for the advice guys, I'm thinkin about this kit http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store/sc … roduct=227

Would that be pretty good? Also found this one, not sure if it would be any better, or much advantage to it, lemme know what you think: http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store/sc … roduct=214


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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

Keep a look out on ebay and the classifieds on here. I am piecing together my kit. If you wait for good buys you can definitely do it cheap. But if your in a rush buy a kit from a vendor and purchase an acessory kit along with it. I want to have a wideband,wetkit,windowswitch for traction,bottlewarmer,downtube,bottle opener,spark plugs, all before i start to spray. goodluck

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My personal preferance on brands is NX or NOS, Also heard alot of complaints about dynotune solenoids. QR's on n2o with a nitrous solenoid stuck open are not fun to see.


Direct port is the shit too.

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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

Hey what do you guys think of this setup I found on ebay? Nitrous setup on ebay.

If I do buy this setup, what all will I be lacking to run this? Im not gonna be running it all the time, would I be safe with the kit and a RPM Window Switch?

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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

not good, to much money and it looks like a dry kit cuz it's missing the fuel solenoid and get a WOT switch not a rpm window switch for your set up.  Also he only has jets for a 65shot, meaning ur gonna have to by more jets.  And he's missing the pressure gauge.

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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

Here man, it cant get any better then this http://www.b15sentra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=167051  go for it.

All u need to make it complete is a WOT switch.  And if u want, you can buy a bottle warmer but thats optional.

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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

Wow that is a rly good deal, doesnt the wot switch only activate when pedal is to the floor?


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yep, WOT is when u want the nitrous to spray.  spray only at higher rpms 3k or more.

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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

Ok its all starting to make a WHOLE lot more sense to me now haha. One more thing, I am still running stock intake, and going to get a aftermarket one, what is the best to run with a 75 shot? Like should it be Ram or CAI, I have a ViS racing CF Hood, the Evo X style, so I have scoops that duct air in, I'm not sure if its enough to take care of the engine bay heat problem with Ram or not. I know its alot of preference, but what is some recommended brands also? I have been looking at AEM or K&N, not sure what you guys roll with. Thanks for all the help guys.


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they will all give the same performance, name brand or not, it's all on the filter, get a ebay 3" short ram or even a CAI, it doesnt matter, and then just buy a good filter.

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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

Ok cool, hate to keep bothering you guys with this... But, that guy on b15sentra.net isn't responding, and I just ran across this kit on Ebay, seems like a good deal, come with bottle warmer and everything, its NX, so not sure if they are pretty good or not?   NX Setup on eBay


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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

that doesnt seem like a bad deal but youll need to get a couple other things i think


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Really? Looks pretty complete to me, I couldn't find anything that was a real necessity to have that it doesn't have, comes with wot switch, bottle warmer, and gauge for inside cab. Any ideas on what its missing?


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i didnt see the wot switch, or gauge for inside. the only thing i would suggest then is a fuel pressure safety switch and maybe a wideband


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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

^^dont listen to that guy lol, no offence man..
there is a wot switch in those pictures and there is a pressure gauge aswell.


CrimsonSpec -  Yes that is complete, the only thing you will need to buy is wiring, like 16g cooper wiring for your power and grounds.  Thats cheap maybe 5bucks for a roll.  And a On and Off switch to connect to your WOT switch. thats like 3bucks at strauss/autozone/pepboys

but that kit is still alil pricy, like 500 bucks shipped.  Keep searching i bought my kit for $250 be patient.

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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

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^^dont listen to that guy lol, no offence man..
there is a wot switch in those pictures and there is a pressure gauge aswell.


CrimsonSpec -  Yes that is complete, but i would really recommend is a Bottle heater your going to need it to keep the pressure between 1100-900psi.  And the only thing you will need to buy to make that kit complete is wiring, like 16g cooper wiring for your power and grounds.  Thats cheap maybe 5bucks for a roll.

sorry i should have explained better. i didnt see those in the ebay thread but if they are there then thats cool. he really should get a fuel pressure safety switch tho, its always better to be safe. If anything goes wrong then your really screwed and you'll be shelling out a lot more money than you planned.  A wideband prolly not so much if you have the fpss but hey id rather be safe than sorry.


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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

yea but those are more used for direct port since more nitrous will be sprayed in the motor.  wont be needed with a 75 shot. but then again, it's up to him.

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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

Yes its a good kit, NX rocks.  However I found my Zex kit cheap so that's what I'm going to be going with.

hit up nismored for accessories if you need them, most are interchangeable between kits, and you can get stuff from him for cheap.

make sure you get SAFCII, you dont NEED a wideband. get the fuel pressure safety switch instead. like $40


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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

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yea but those are more used for direct port since more nitrous will be sprayed in the motor.  wont be needed with a 75 shot. but then again, it's up to him.

i know, im just figuring he would want to have as many safety precautions as he could cause this is his dd and hes in college ya know?


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direct port is not bad, it's just more solenoids, more jets, more steel lines, tapping the manifold, watching out for leaks.  It's just basically needs to be more maintained, and it's not worth all that work to get an extra 50 out of it, now were talkinga bout 125 shot but then u need a progressive controller and a tune to make sure your not leaning out.

save the headache and get a wet kit for like 350 and invest in a bottle warmer, dont get the automatic bottle opener cuz it usally fails and thats just being straight lazy, just to open the bottle manually.  you dont need a purge to clean the lines (save that money too).  Some one on b15sentra.net is selling a zex nitrous kit, there one of the top of the line product makers for nitrous.

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And just little bit of knowledge to share, Direct port is a whole lot better than single nozzle, I've done both.


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it just has more chances for the solenoid fittings to fail, u know the fittings that are connected to the lines to the solenoid.  better explanation is that more leaks can accur. but yea direct port is a good set up if your serious about nitrous and want more then just a 100shot.

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Distribution blocks at the solenoids and other fittings if connected properly wont leak, but I guess I see your point.

And Direct port is good for any size shot, all about even distribution to each cylinder. With my pregressive controller I ran my direct port
shot all over the place, 25-100. Worked great at every size shot.

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Re: Wanting Nitrous Need Advice :P

i've got a NOS direct port nitrous kit for sale comes with everything including a msd window switch!! the only thing it dosent come with is jets... im taking OBO so if your interested shoot me a pm....

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