This is so true. Its a shame that they cant make sentra's nowadays with a huge aftermarket support. Honda fits and Nissan Versas get more publicity and aftermarket suport. Its wierd???

I don't agree with the article at all and frankly, think it's crap... but, that's beside the point.

Refer here: http://myspecv.com/f/t163837-rules-conc … ction.html

ANY bashing that goes on and your post is gone.

That was an entertaining read.

MajorMods wrote:

WHERE THE HELL IS THIS ON THE B16?


"There's a strut-tower brace up front, and a V-shaped chassis brace across the rear seatbacks, eliminating the folding rear seat."

You didn't get one either?!?!? wierd lol


That's what I wanted to know When I saw it. We need to go to Nissan and find where they put all of them.

urbanjacup wrote:

Its a given, if you are an enthusiast looking to make car purchase in this segment today...the GTI, Honda Civic Si, or Chevy Cobalt SS are all better selections regardless of price...they all have a better aftermarket and in the end you probably get closer to what your looking for in any of them for less money and hassle once you start to modify...

SI ftw!

eh, I agree with them to a point. Although the sr20 proved its worthy, I still feel a little fanboi vibe from the guy, If we (b15-b16 guys) had more exposere or aftermarket support I think we would have more fanbois too. Dont get me wrong I get a kick out of telling people I drive the 09 Altima hybrid who dont know any better, but at the same time I wish we had the hype of OMGROFLBBQ its a spec V!

they were right about the b13 SE-R most people who own them dont know what thier capable of.. back in highschool one kid had one and he had no clue what potential was under the hood. he just beat the shit out of it and treated it like a shitty beater. i wish i could gotten my hads on it before he wrecked it people need to give the specv credit where it is due tho.. they are decently stong cars from the factory and yes they have thier flaws but what deosnt? our aftermarket support is growing, and we (here on this forum mostly) are working to make it a formidable player our segment, and exteding our peformance into others (evo and sti territory for example). from gurov and heidi pioneering the HQR, and everyone else pushing our platform to the limits and then figuring out how to get past whats holding them back and then finding the next limit. personally im glad i own a specv at this time of innovation cuz its so much fun to watch everyone work on different things and see how it all turns out. B13 was amazing in the 90's  and the specv is awesome for its day in age.
yes i went on a rant but that shit happens when you do a wake and bake

It made cardomain!  First time I've seen them talk about a Spec V that... wasn't mine

http://blog.cardomain.com/blog/2008/09/ … t-199.html

ps the only thing nice about a Si is the gas mileage - it iz teh gheynezz - k im done 4 now

Last edited by SPECial Sauce (2008-09-24 14:37:34)

point:

b13 ser was far and few between

b14 failed

b15 the newer, better version

b16, nothing new, really, just remodeled

the Se-R name has lost its umph and respect since ALOT more owners have an Se-R spec-V vs. back in the day with the SER.  Tell me how many B14 sentra SE or even b14 200sx SE-R u find... NOT MANY

cute02spec wrote:

urbanjacup wrote:

cute02spec wrote:

Neat article, I know I haven't seen it before:  http://www.motivemag.com/pub/feature/ve … SE-R.shtml

I gotta agreed with the last line... the B13 SE-R was in a league of it's own... the newer SE-Rs (B15s included) are just one of many...

I also agree...its common sense here, the SE-R is yesterday...the spec v is today...and the fact is the SE-R back in the 90s made a lot more noise among enthusiasts than the spec v does today...There was definitely more hype back in 2002 than there was or is with the B16 today...whether B15 or B16 price has everything to do with it...but I also feel the two generations differ by the overall consumer buying the car...

Its a given, if you are an enthusiast looking to make car purchase in this segment today...the GTI, Honda Civic Si, or Chevy Cobalt SS are all better selections regardless of price...they all have a better aftermarket and in the end you probably get closer to what your looking for in any of them for less money and hassle once you start to modify...

The 2002 launch was VERY hyped and marketed... that's how I found out about the car was from that music/anime/info CD!  The marketing was insane and very well done.  I was kinda let down with the 2007 came out because I was expecting something similar (I collect Sentra advertising, heh)... but then again, I guess since there was already a Spec V, the hype wasn't going to be the same. 

I didn't get nit picky with the fine details of the article (like holy shit, couldn't they have found a B13 with a little less rust?  mine didn't have a drop on it when I sold it two years ago...).  I just liked the general message.  A person can't deny that a SE-R/Spec V is  just a drop in the bucket nowadays among so many other "sport compacts."  Back in the B13 era, the car was a leader, now we're the followers of other similar cars.  I think some are missing this message...

The old Honda blood in me wants me to ask the question what can be done to a sr20 that cant be done to a d16 motor? I'm very familiar with the phrase " theres no replacement for displacement" meaning I kno the 2.0 is obviously better...but youtube 9 second D series honda.

Now to defend my new NIssan blood.....how could you call the spec a drop in the bucket? I could honestly say half the people who are into "imports" dont know anything about our cars. I've seen a couple introduction threads from people who are excited about there new V SPEC. Its not fair to catagorize our cars with the MS3 or cobalt SS or WRX. I think Nissan did a damn good job with the spec. It wasnt untill 07 that Honda finally caught up with the civic. 5-10 years from now our 200hp cars are going to be SLOW for imports stock. Just like the 140hp sr20 was the shit 15 years ago, I think the same will happen (not the same extent) with the qr25 down the road. People are going to realize and push our motor

the b15 ser - spec v difference is what? like 10HP (performance wise). Its different on the b16. I understand where Heidi is going, it seems like  slowly but surely the SER is loosing all the jazz it had. I went to the local gathering a few months back with my buddy in his b15 SER and I hear some1 go "nah its not fast, its not a spec"

cute02spec wrote:

It's a drop in the bucket because there's so many similar cars out nowadays that are like it... everybody puts out a "sport compact" now... That wasn't done in the early 90s.  There's nothing making the Spec V a leader in teh sport compact world.. nothing.  You say B13 SE-R, import people will know.  Say something about a new(er) Spec V, and they're like "you drive a what?"

there really not similiar though, We are pretty much par with the SI and RSX type S, but thats it. Its the way these other asshole companies like Toyota promote their rad slow ass shitty cars...Check out the new scion commercial or the corolla S commercial. I would consider those bucket cars....as in bucket of shit

cute02spec wrote:

A Spec v IS an SE-R...

Still think the point is being missing...

I know a Spec is a SER the point I was trying to make is your right. Back 15 years ago if you saw SER you were proud. Now people only want specs, they dont care if its only a SER

I am not missing the point, i get it... he iz wet in the pants and soft in the head for b13's...  i don't blame him im thinking of buying one ($500 red se-r w/ NO RUST and just needs clutch:) ).  It's just that sooo many knock the b15's STILL... and imho the b15s own all considering the price.  No they're not killer fast - neither was the b13, they don't have slamin good looks - ahem (look at the b13 lines - remind u of anything?), everybody that owns one has a little techie nerd inside their inner closet - o wait he got that right.  This guy in reminescing about his first high school prom date or sumthin' - of course she was younger, because HE was younger.

Now I've not driven a b16, and I've always thought it was a bit weird the way it resembles a b14 (and frankly from what i've heard the handling does too)... and the b15 resembles the b13 and hence the 510.  THAT is why the BRE car iz hands down THE coolest sentra on the board heheh -

So no... I deffinately don't miss the point.  Reminescing iz one thing - being retarded and insulting what is in my opinion THE best small car platform is another.  The b13 was an accounting trick just like the b15, and quite frankly even @ 20k the b16 is a bargain compared to the $30k mugen stink eye - and I bet it would kill it (we'll never find out because any fanboi that buys that cash-barge is probably to much of a nerd to race.  Long live the SeR!

And OMG! plz don't start comparing it to cars that cost twice as much... IT IS THE DAMN LEADER IN ITS PRICE RANGE AND I ACTUALLY SOLD FOR NISSAN WHEN I BOUGHT MINE - NOBODY AT THE DEALER EVEN KNEW WHAT THE F*** IT WAS THEY SURE DO NOW...
AAAAAAAAA..... *POP* MY HEAD SPLODES

Last edited by SPECial Sauce (2008-09-24 14:38:09)

I love my B15s, but I guess I won't sit here and say they're the best car ever... like a lot want to, apparently.

I drive the car for myself... not to get other people to buy it.  Sorry, but that's the truth...