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2008-09-19 20:15:23 (15 weeks 5 days 2 hours 1 minute 21 seconds) #1868884 | | view posts since this          #1 

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High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

while just cruising around and stuff knock will be at 2-4 or if it's really hot could get up to 30 or so.. but lately herre at wide open throttle im seeing like 200 or so. i run meth injection with a/f from 11.6-11.9 everything seems ok as far as a/f and everythign under the hood. plugs look decent but might just buy new ones to weed out the problems (makes sure the plugs arent fouled) if anyone knows or might have an idea of what could be wrong that would be great. thanks in advance, RJ

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2008-09-19 20:16:45 (15 weeks 5 days 1 hour 59 minutes 59 seconds) #1868886 | | view posts since this          #2 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

your getting knock that high then obviously the knock sensor is seeing knock of some sort.. How much boost you running?


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2008-09-19 20:18:00 (15 weeks 5 days 1 hour 58 minutes 44 seconds) #1868888 | | view posts since this          #3 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

i run 10psi w/meth and moderate to rich tune


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2008-09-19 20:18:48 (15 weeks 5 days 1 hour 57 minutes 56 seconds) #1868889 | | view posts since this          #4 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

you got a wideband monitering those AFRS or what it tuned for those afrs at one point?

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2008-09-19 20:19:55 (15 weeks 5 days 1 hour 56 minutes 49 seconds) #1868890 | | view posts since this          #5 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

aem wideband in my face so i can see a/f all the time.. a/f are good. its not a lean problem


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2008-09-19 20:20:14 (15 weeks 5 days 1 hour 56 minutes 30 seconds) #1868892 | | view posts since this          #6 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

wow, i dont see much knock at all unless like you said its REALLY hot(ill see 30 or so).  200 is definately not good lol


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2008-09-19 20:22:41 (15 weeks 5 days 1 hour 54 minutes 3 seconds) #1868894 | | view posts since this          #7 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

yea dude i know.. that is how mine was.. no knock ever only at idle and when i would open it up the knock would go away.. but just recently i started haveing the high knock (last week or less) so i was thinking possibly the plugs being fouled out from running rich. i've been on these plugs for about 6 months now.


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2008-09-19 20:22:51 (15 weeks 5 days 1 hour 53 minutes 53 seconds) #1868895 | | view posts since this          #8 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

well i never used safc2s knock moniter so 200 could be completly normal but it could be becuz its getting hotter.  but expect higher knock readings on full thorttle anyways becuz of the increase in engine noise under full power...  But it could also be some slight knock idk someone with experience with afc2 will have to help ya there.

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2008-09-19 20:23:32 (15 weeks 5 days 1 hour 53 minutes 12 seconds) #1868897 | | view posts since this          #9 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

turn down the boost and get the motor to last till you can build it. If its doing that all the time and your afrs are good, then its not sounding good for the motor. Any noise you can hear thats out of the ordinary


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2008-09-19 20:25:27 (15 weeks 5 days 1 hour 51 minutes 17 seconds) #1868899 | | view posts since this          #10 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

if your plugs were fouled and the knock was coming from a misfire you would prob. feel it missing. I dont think foul plugs will give you knock.


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2008-09-19 20:26:11 (15 weeks 5 days 1 hour 50 minutes 33 seconds) #1868900 | | view posts since this          #11 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

the way i see it is if it was a multiple missfire i would see an engine light.. i havnt calibrated the knock on the safc in about 8months so im going to recalibrate that and then get new plugs and i guess go from there.. i cant think of anything else thats why i made a thread to possibly get more ideas.. thanks all and if anyone can think of anything then let me know.


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2008-09-19 20:27:35 (15 weeks 5 days 1 hour 49 minutes 9 seconds) #1868902 | | view posts since this          #12 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

Def. recalibrate it. Its really picky when you calibrate the safc2 on the spec v. its really touchy. So ya, try that and grab some new plugs and go from there.


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2008-09-19 20:28:51 (15 weeks 5 days 1 hour 47 minutes 53 seconds) #1868905 | | view posts since this          #13 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

yea i dont feel anything in the petal when driving no missfireing at all.. no hesitation.. which option is the knock calibrate again?


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2008-09-19 20:29:24 (15 weeks 5 days 1 hour 47 minutes 20 seconds) #1868906 | | view posts since this          #14 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

its in the settings menu


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2008-09-21 17:47:43 (15 weeks 3 days 4 hours 29 minutes 1 second) #1869951 | | view posts since this          #15 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

could also be how its set up.


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2008-09-21 18:20:46 (15 weeks 3 days 3 hours 55 minutes 58 seconds) #1869971 | | view posts since this          #16 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

ok new issue.. got new plugs NGK coppers gap'd to .030 (for sti) installed them and when i got WOT as soon as i hit boost it cuts out and feels like a misfire.. so i took them out installed stock plugs (had some on hand) and runs perfect.. any ideas?


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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

why are you using sti plugs.

its srt4 plugs.

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2008-09-21 19:17:28 (15 weeks 3 days 2 hours 59 minutes 16 seconds) #1869992 | | view posts since this          #18 

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

kc03spec-v wrote:

could also be how its set up.

Do you just repeat everything everyone else says just in your own words?


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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

srt4 plugs arent colder than ours.. sti are. i used the pt# off the spark plug sticky page. and that pt number is for sti. im going to try to gap them like stocks and see what happens.. i was just wondering if they were too cold with the meth and all??

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

boogerboy72 wrote:

why are you using sti plugs.

its srt4 plugs.

I use sti plugs as well without issues...


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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

Like we said recalibrate it and start from there. Tell us what you see. Also what your seeing on the calibration screen for knock numbers.

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

at idle on the calibration screen i see 50-60 then wot i see as much as 250.. as far as the plugs not sure what the hell is going on.. im going to gap them tomorrow afternoon a little wider and see what happens.. like i said it's odd bc i throw those stock plugs in and everything is good.. runs good and strong but damn when i throw the coppers in at .030 as soon as i make boost feels like blow out or mis fire just studders.. pull them out and everything looks good.. same gap nothing contacting them.. so yea gonna gap wider and see if it comes out with better results..


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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

silverspec wrote:

kc03spec-v wrote:

could also be how its set up.

Do you just repeat everything everyone else says just in your own words?

Nope.

I am not reading 15 post that have multiple paragraphs in them though.

now you can stfu.


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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

Kurt, don't tell people to STFU.  kthnx.


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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

kc03spec-v wrote:

silverspec wrote:

kc03spec-v wrote:

could also be how its set up.

Do you just repeat everything everyone else says just in your own words?

Nope.

I am not reading 15 post that have multiple paragraphs in them though.

now you can stfu.

someone needs to pull their huggies out of their ass smiley-wink   

Back on topic, did you rest your knock setting yet? Cause the numbers your getting on the knock setting screen dont seem to bad.


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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

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Do you just repeat everything everyone else says just in your own words?

Nope.

I am not reading 15 post that have multiple paragraphs in them though.

now you can stfu.

someone needs to pull their huggies out of their ass smiley-wink   

Back on topic, did you rest your knock setting yet? Cause the numbers your getting on the knock setting screen dont seem to bad.

eh, i was just in a bad mood last night.


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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

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knock is based on what the calibration is set at....

Depending on the temperature outside when the car is started, the knock sensor, in the monitor screen, might show 15, or it might start out at 120. The corresponding voltages based ont eh starting voltage will vary a good bit, but will typically stay within a range of 200-250 from the knock sensor voltage the cars shows when initially started once you hit WOT. If you set the "knock range" when the initial range is low, on an occasion when the initial readnig is high, there is a good chance almost everything will show high knock.

I never watch anything other than the knock calibration screen. 275-330 or so isn't knock. 700-1000 will be audible knock. 30-190 while cruising is fine, 220-350 is fine under WOT. If your car is actually knocking the voltage will spike to the 500-1000 range or so, 800ish you'll hear knock, only heard it once.

is it possible to wire in a 500k resistor and just eliminate the sensor all together?

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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

boogerboy72 wrote:

why are you using sti plugs.

its srt4 plugs.

why are you using srt-4 plugs they are too long.( i have a set in my tool box and they are not even close to being right)


nissan make OEM step-colder plugs.

and napa can get them

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I'm using srt-4 plugs.


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I'm using srt-4 plugs.

have a part number dan.


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No, never smiley-smile


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No, never smiley-smile

ha, damn you


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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

I just went to the dodge dealership and said I need spark plugs for a neon srt-4 and then they gave them to me.


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Re: High knock only at WOT?? help!?! **new issue**

theherofails wrote:

I'm using srt-4 plugs.

So am I...


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