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2008-09-09 22:33:27 (17 weeks 23 hours 24 minutes 58 seconds) #1860645 | | view posts since this          #1 

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FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

I went out on a local long freeway and did some tuning on 10.7-11.2psi and I was getting a lean misfire in every gear right at 5900rpm. I know for sure that I am running out of fuel because my wideband will jump to 12.1+ then go back down to 11.3 where it should be. I have a walbro 255 pump and 440cc injectors. Im thinking the fuel pressure regulator at 50psi is not enough for 10+psi boost. You guys have any ideas why this is happening. I know there are like 5 people out there on my setup running 10+psi and they dont have this problem.


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2008-09-09 22:37:36 (17 weeks 23 hours 20 minutes 49 seconds) #1860652 | | view posts since this          #2 

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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

sounds like you are sucking the canister dry. how much gas was in the tank while making these pulls?


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2008-09-09 22:38:39 (17 weeks 23 hours 19 minutes 46 seconds) #1860653 | | view posts since this          #3 

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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

superspec wrote:

sounds like you are sucking the canister dry. how much gas was in the tank while making these pulls?

I was kind of thinking that too. But I have ALOT of holes drilled in that guy and there was 3/4 tank. So you dont think its the stock FPR?


Any other ideas? I was going to go for 12's 2marrow but if I cant run 11psi there is really no point in trying.

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2008-09-11 21:01:44 (16 weeks 6 days 56 minutes 41 seconds) #1862788 | | view posts since this          #4 

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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

IMO 12.1 afr isn't really that lean in boost....I don't worry until I hit 13's, then I let out of it...If you're seeing 12.1 and then it goes back down into the 11's, why not just add some fuel on your AFC at that rpm?? The leaner you run the more power you are making. My car doesn't misfire at those AFR's though, so I don't know. I'm running SRT4 injectors also, I think they push a lil more fuel than the 440's...


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2008-09-12 09:28:26 (16 weeks 5 days 12 hours 29 minutes 59 seconds) #1863199 | | view posts since this          #5 

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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

Download the turbonetics turbo kit install guide for the fuel pump install and it tells you where you need to drill the holes.

I cant add anymore fuel on my AFC. No matter where I set it +25% -15% the AFR's stay the same when it gets to 5900 or so. And I KNOW for sure that the AFC is working because it changes all the lower rpm AFR with no problem. I shoot for 11.5 AFR 12.1 is too lean in my mind. But yea I cant seam to figure this one out... I still have not tried cleaning the maf becuase I need to go get some cleaner.


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2008-09-15 04:15:17 (16 weeks 2 days 17 hours 43 minutes 8 seconds) #1865125 | | view posts since this          #6 

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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

check your plugs.

get champion OEM replacment SRT-4 plugs.

gap em to .028

That will fix your prob.


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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

kc03spec-v wrote:

check your plugs.

get champion OEM replacment SRT-4 plugs.

gap em to .028

That will fix your prob.

good now find me a 9/16" plug instead of 5/8"

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2008-09-15 15:27:36 (16 weeks 2 days 6 hours 30 minutes 49 seconds) #1865426 | | view posts since this          #8 

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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

MajorMods wrote:

kc03spec-v wrote:

check your plugs.

get champion OEM replacment SRT-4 plugs.

gap em to .028

That will fix your prob.

good now find me a 9/16" plug instead of 5/8"

LMFAO.

I thought you found a set?

www.sparkplug.com  type in all the info   it will spit out whtever is out there.

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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

thats a site for baby shit... www.sparkplugs.com is for car shit but even there i cant specify the size of the plug I need

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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

kc03spec-v wrote:

check your plugs.

get champion OEM replacment SRT-4 plugs.

gap em to .028

That will fix your prob.

SSoooo... I went to the dodge dealership and bought OEM SRT-4 plugs. I went to autozone and bought a gapper and gapped to .027 just to be safe. I installed all 4 ran the car for about 30 seconds and was getting wierd AFR's and wierd backfires so I turned it off took and the plugs and all the gaps and gapped to about .013...... GG piston hitting the resistor.. idk who told you this but the information was definitly incorrect. If you have stock SRT-4 plugs in your head I would recommend taking them out and looking at them.


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2008-09-15 21:59:55 (16 weeks 1 day 23 hours 58 minutes 30 seconds) #1865804 | | view posts since this          #11 

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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

hmmm... can you compare the lengths of the plugs ?


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2008-09-15 22:01:59 (16 weeks 1 day 23 hours 56 minutes 26 seconds) #1865809 | | view posts since this          #12 

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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

gurov wrote:

hmmm... can you compare the lengths of the plugs ?

Yea. The stock SRT-4 is a little longer (the resistor) and there is no gasket with them either. So I was kind of stupid for installing them noticing that but live and learn I guess..


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12.967 @ 108.2mph with a 2.09 60FT ON 10.5PSI
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2008-09-15 22:04:26 (16 weeks 1 day 23 hours 53 minutes 59 seconds) #1865817 | | view posts since this          #13 

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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

Just get stock NGK style plugs but one step colder.. I beilive they are 6, instead on 5 on the part number. I forget the rest of the number. Gap them to .033


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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

every spec-v i ve done, including my own, have used CHAMPION BRAND srt4 plugs.

READ What i said.  dont take half my advice and take the other half in your own hands and fuck it up, and tell me I am wrong.


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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

05redser wrote:

gurov wrote:

hmmm... can you compare the lengths of the plugs ?

Yea. The stock SRT-4 is a little longer (the resistor) and there is no gasket with them either. So I was kind of stupid for installing them noticing that but live and learn I guess..

Live and learn to read what people tell you,and take their advice, not half of it.


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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

get stock srt-4 plugs gap them to .028 (which I did) and thats all you said????? Care to explain to me? Unless I am missing something thats all you said...


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2008-09-16 20:53:08 (16 weeks 1 day 1 hour 5 minutes 17 seconds) #1866561 | | view posts since this          #17 

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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

I've been running the SRT plugs(not sure if they're champion) for over a year now...No problems whatsoever...They came pregapped, I've never fucked with em...


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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

kc03spec-v wrote:

check your plugs.

get champion OEM replacment SRT-4 plugs.

gap em to .02
8

That will fix your prob.

CHAMPION brand.

as in, NOT MOPAR.


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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

kc03spec-v wrote:

kc03spec-v wrote:

check your plugs.

get champion OEM replacment SRT-4 plugs.

gap em to .02
8

That will fix your prob.

CHAMPION brand.

as in, NOT MOPAR.

I went to the dodge dealer and said I wanted OEM champion replacement plugs and thats what they gave me. Maybe they gave me the wrong ones idk.

Last edited by 05redser (2008-09-17 11:00:31)


05 spec, boosted by JORDAN, MARK, AND ME. Treadstone helped a lil bit.
287WHP @ 6.5-7.5 psi (says the canada dyno)
12.967 @ 108.2mph with a 2.09 60FT ON 10.5PSI
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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

05redser wrote:

kc03spec-v wrote:

kc03spec-v wrote:

check your plugs.

get champion OEM replacment SRT-4 plugs.

gap em to .02
8

That will fix your prob.

CHAMPION brand.

as in, NOT MOPAR.

I went to the dodge dealer and said I wanted OEM champion replacement plugs and thats what they gave me. Maybe they gave me the wrong ones idk.

Yes, they did.

Either that, or your engine is fucked.

Go to autozone, orielys or whatever you have near you.

CHAMPION brand, copper srt-4 plugs


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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

hey i have had the same problem... leave the stock champions srt plugs at stock gap.. i used these on 10 psi and it was perfect. i than raised the boost regapped and had fuel cut.. i put them back to stock gap from autozone and bam it is fixed


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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

i never gap plugs... i leave em stock gapped and they always work better that way

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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

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i never gap plugs... i leave em stock gapped and they always work better that way

yea, you get into a prob when you buy plugs for other cars and put them in the spec-v's

its always good to check the gap also never know when a box has been dropped or anything


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Re: FUEL cut @ 10.7-11.2psi

i know its late but im a new member here and im in the process of turbocharging and your stock srt4 gap is .45 i have one but i run 24psi 31 overboost and i increased my gap and got a colder plug so i thnk you should leave them stock on the srt thats for 14psi and no cut you dont cut till 18 on stock  then when you upgrade open your gap just for future readers on this thread with that problem now i would say gap around .50 .52 for more boost and get a boost controller sorry im a srt junkie its actually better than ppl think for the money no more bang for the buck


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Beast: 468whp 421trq "hahncraft 20g turbo, hahn manifold, hahn portifueler 750cc (yeah thats 2 rows) Greddy E01 Boost Controller w/ greddy Emanage, 18's front 19's back, Acr suspension, and the vtec mods lol CAI, 3" side exit exhaust, HID's, Pioneer N2 Flip out, and 2 midgets stuffed in a box in the trunk           

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