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2008-09-07 17:41:48 (17 weeks 3 days 4 hours 49 minutes 36 seconds) #1858407 | | view posts since this          #1 

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Megasquirt timing control for FUEL ONLY boxes - event skip

i'll explain later:

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2008-09-07 17:45:39 (17 weeks 3 days 4 hours 45 minutes 45 seconds) #1858411 | | view posts since this          #2 

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Re: Megasquirt timing control for FUEL ONLY boxes - event skip

so your now saying that with the boxex you built to get the rpm signal from the coils you can also run spark control?

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2008-09-07 17:47:31 (17 weeks 3 days 4 hours 43 minutes 53 seconds) #1858417 | | view posts since this          #3 

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Re: Megasquirt timing control for FUEL ONLY boxes - event skip

in a limited context yes... still trying to get it figured out but we are going to start with skipping events with rev limiters and then maybe moving timing around relative to the stock ignition pulse.

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2008-09-07 19:12:07 (17 weeks 3 days 3 hours 19 minutes 17 seconds) #1858494 | | view posts since this          #4 

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Re: Megasquirt timing control for FUEL ONLY boxes - event skip

pimpsmurf wrote:

moving timing around sounds dangerous unless you only do it in response to knock. Skiping spark events (as gurov is showing) allows for real traction control. Gurov wants to get it to the point that you can floor the gas at the line, dump the clutch, and only worry about shifting. (ie, 2 stage w/ real shift assist/3rd rev limiter) and full traction control allowing you to put as much power to the ground as possible.

The only thing I wonder about this method is that it would be trying to see if you slip based on RPM raising faster than a threshold value. We can tune the threshold, so it should be possible to tune it to your horsepower level, but the closer you get to the line, the more regular the adjustment would have to be.

I hope this works out... 1st gear sucks and this could make boosted 2.2s 60's a thing of the past.

-JNY

well, the thing about moving timing events around is that the megasquirt recognizes the timing event a trigger to its own timing mechanism, so it actually takes rpm and rise/fall into account. so theoretically this COULD be knock control solution as well, but i have my doubts about stock dwell/timing signal being long enough to be moved around like that, since i'm simply relaying the stock signal to the ignition coils via two transistors, both switched by MS's timing control.

i'm going out to the garage right now for a first test.


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2008-09-08 10:18:14 (17 weeks 2 days 12 hours 13 minutes 10 seconds) #1858903 | | view posts since this          #5 

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Re: Megasquirt timing control for FUEL ONLY boxes - event skip

allright, so this worked, it might need a bit more cleaning up, but this effectively makes the megasquirt into a launch control box that can drop AND retard ignition relative to stock. I'll hook up a scope to the running car to make sure the signals are dead on and attempt to test it out for any kind of misfires, but it's looking promising. if anything, the megasquirt box could be used as just launch control module without injector control, possibly traction control, depending on how well that'll work out as well as a timing retard solution.

there will be a lot more testing on this though.


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2008-09-08 10:58:03 (17 weeks 2 days 11 hours 33 minutes 21 seconds) #1858920 | | view posts since this          #6 

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Re: Megasquirt timing control for FUEL ONLY boxes - event skip

woot for monday projects

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