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2008-08-29 16:09:53 (18 weeks 5 days 7 hours 52 minutes 5 seconds) #1851313 | | view posts since this          #1 

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The diagram on the left is the only set of cams they have which will work just fine with stock springs
The diagram on the Right has not been made and still in production, And you will need aftermarket springs.  When will they come out? IDK



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2008-08-29 16:13:31 (18 weeks 5 days 7 hours 48 minutes 27 seconds) #1851316 | | view posts since this          #2 

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The diagram on the left is the only set of cams they have which will work just fine with stock springs
The diagram on the Right has not been made and still in production, And you will need aftermarket springs.  When will they come out? IDK

Hmmmmm very very interesting, I better pull my JWT cams out in preperation for these. I heart 272s smiley-smile


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2008-09-03 12:21:30 (18 weeks 11 hours 40 minutes 28 seconds) #1854883 | | view posts since this          #3 

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im glad i already have JWT springs..... smiley-bounce2 i cant wait


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2008-09-03 15:04:13 (18 weeks 8 hours 57 minutes 45 seconds) #1855038 | | view posts since this          #4 

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not for nothing but the jwt springs are just as strong as our stock ones. maybe BC will come out with springs

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2008-09-04 00:53:08 (17 weeks 6 days 23 hours 8 minutes 50 seconds) #1855563 | | view posts since this          #5 

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Nice. Ive been waiting for some 272s for a while... They probably wont do well with the supercharger and now Im looking for custom grinds. Which I will most likely end up getting some from Travis.


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2008-09-04 11:00:24 (17 weeks 6 days 13 hours 1 minute 34 seconds) #1855846 | | view posts since this          #6 

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not for nothing but the jwt springs are just as strong as our stock ones. maybe BC will come out with springs

i thought that when i saw them....they look like the stock ones, they just say they can handle 7200


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nightrider45 wrote:

not for nothing but the jwt springs are just as strong as our stock ones. maybe BC will come out with springs

i thought that when i saw them....they look like the stock ones, they just say they can handle 7200

They already have springs for our cars, The VQ35 springs and buckets are identical to ours, all they have to do is offer them in sets of  16 instead of 24


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2008-09-04 15:28:45 (17 weeks 6 days 8 hours 33 minutes 13 seconds) #1856051 | | view posts since this          #8 

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kktohot wrote:

nightrider45 wrote:

not for nothing but the jwt springs are just as strong as our stock ones. maybe BC will come out with springs

i thought that when i saw them....they look like the stock ones, they just say they can handle 7200

They already have springs for our cars, The VQ35 springs and buckets are identical to ours, all they have to do is offer them in sets of  16 instead of 24

as long as you dont mind a SLIGHT modification to hte springs to set correctly


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kktohot wrote:

nightrider45 wrote:

not for nothing but the jwt springs are just as strong as our stock ones. maybe BC will come out with springs

i thought that when i saw them....they look like the stock ones, they just say they can handle 7200

They already have springs for our cars, The VQ35 springs and buckets are identical to ours, all they have to do is offer them in sets of  16 instead of 24

Buy two sets of 24. Keep 16. Then sell the other 2 sets of 16. No monies loss but possibly gained smiley-nixweiss


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2008-09-04 19:53:08 (17 weeks 6 days 4 hours 8 minutes 50 seconds) #1856363 | | view posts since this          #10 

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Oh by the way, i asked Brian about the price differences in stage 2 (bc0261) and stage 3 (bc0262) cams and he said there both the same price.

Raised redline and springs for 272's... man thats gonna be great in the future. but the tq is gonna go way down like a honda.

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2008-09-04 21:39:03 (17 weeks 6 days 2 hours 22 minutes 55 seconds) #1856480 | | view posts since this          #11 

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Oh by the way, i asked Brian about the price differences in stage 2 (bc0261) and stage 3 (bc0262) cams and he said there both the same price.

Raised redline and springs for 272's... man thats gonna be great in the future. but the tq is gonna go way down like a honda.

Id sacrifice some tq for some REAL high end hp.   hell right now i have more hp than tq anyways(1st NA spec ive seen do that) but id love to have an extra 15whp up top


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2008-09-10 09:48:01 (17 weeks 14 hours 13 minutes 57 seconds) #1861176 | | view posts since this          #12 

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I emailed BC just a few days ago, and was told they have no cams in production yet.


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2008-09-10 09:50:57 (17 weeks 14 hours 11 minutes 1 second) #1861177 | | view posts since this          #13 

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nightrider45 wrote:

Oh by the way, i asked Brian about the price differences in stage 2 (bc0261) and stage 3 (bc0262) cams and he said there both the same price.

Raised redline and springs for 272's... man thats gonna be great in the future. but the tq is gonna go way down like a honda.

Id sacrifice some tq for some REAL high end hp.  hell right now i have more hp than tq anyways(1st NA spec ive seen do that) but id love to have an extra 15whp up top

smiley-huh  i had more hp the tq...   172hp/167tq


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2008-09-10 11:34:45 (17 weeks 12 hours 27 minutes 13 seconds) #1861228 | | view posts since this          #14 

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well then theres 2 of us  i guess just not many do that


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I emailed BC just a few days ago, and was told they have no cams in production yet.

there not gonna have it anytime soon.  (i meen a long time from now) got the word from a member that they had problems with the stage 3 cams, the car keeps shuting off and doesnt run right, said the ECU doesnt like those specs on the cams

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i had dustin from BC tell me the stage 2 AND 3 were ready on aug.11th.

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stage 2 been ready, I installed it 2 days ago.   they only have like 7 left right now. but they have no stage 3 yet, trust me i wanted the 3 lol, but they having issues with it.

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stage 2 been ready, I installed it 2 days ago.   they only have like 7 left right now. but they have no stage 3 yet, trust me i wanted the 3 lol, but they having issues with it.

What do you think of them (stage 2)
  I am looking into getting some cams.
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so i thought the b16 springs were the same part # as the b15.   which means our stock springs are good for 7k at least!


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I might not have read this right but with stage 3 you will be loseing Tq but gain top end Hp?


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with any aftermarket cam(atleast the ones for the qr) you will loose some low end but gain top end.

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Will the stage 3 lose more Tq then the Stage 2?

I'm not sure how much TQ I wanna lose but I still dont know the full potential of the QR, I have bad compresion and seals (pre-cat failure)

And I plan on Tracking my car so I want a good amount of TQ for when I pull threw the turns.

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If you dont want a tremendous tq lose, then go for the stage 2s. The stage 3 cams aren't out yet btw

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Ya thats what I was thinking. Plus it wont be for awhile till I get cams so I'm just gonna keep checking up on them
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so i thought the b16 springs were the same part # as the b15.   which means our stock springs are good for 7k at least!

no the springs are different b16 are better....I wouldnt rec. our springs over 7k, for very long.  A quick race maybe, all the time definately not

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Will the stage 3 lose more Tq then the Stage 2?

I'm not sure how much TQ I wanna lose but I still dont know the full potential of the QR, I have bad compresion and seals (pre-cat failure)

And I plan on Tracking my car so I want a good amount of TQ for when I pull threw the turns.

You will lose more low end but double the gain up top.   and hp # are measured at the flywheel....so when he says 10whp that will = about 5/6.  Like JWT cams claim 8....they make about 4.  The stage 3 however will make like 10-14whp up top and lose low end...this really wont effect you in a race because the only time your lower than 4krpms is in the 1st second or so.  Its like that with any manufactor though

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nightrider45 wrote:

stage 2 been ready, I installed it 2 days ago.   they only have like 7 left right now. but they have no stage 3 yet, trust me i wanted the 3 lol, but they having issues with it.

What do you think of them (stage 2)
  I am looking into getting some cams.
Dustin told me 10-15 at the wheels for stage 2

They are similar to the JWT but with a little more midrange. 
10-15 is at the flywheel read above^^

nightrider45 wrote:

stage 2 been ready, I installed it 2 days ago.   they only have like 7 left right now. but they have no stage 3 yet, trust me i wanted the 3 lol, but they having issues with it.

He sent me an email today that they are available and to call him to purchase....I wish I knew who he was telling the truth to

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I was talking to bigJ about those stage 3 cams and i asked him about the duration on the intake side (stage 3) and he said the higher the duration on the intake side, it will lower the compression, and if you want the best out of those cams, higher compression pistons would be a good idea.

dirtyspec- the higher the duration is on the exhaust side the more tq you'll lose but gain uptop.

kktohot-  it's safe to say you can run the stock springs to 7k and when u said "just for a lil quick race, not all the time deff not".  Negative.  I've beat on my car since the day i got that higher redline and i even took it to the track/dyno/street race/street tune ect... and it's still holding up strong. I probably ran it to redline like 100 times lol no lie.

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Yeah, it's unknown at this point if the Stage 3's will even idle.


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I have seen them.  I can't say anymore about it though.


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kktohot-  it's safe to say you can run the stock springs to 7k and when u said "just for a lil quick race, not all the time deff not".  Negative.  I've beat on my car since the day i got that higher redline and i even took it to the track/dyno/street race/street tune ect... and it's still holding up strong. I probably ran it to redline like 100 times lol no lie.

I floated my valves at 7400 rpms and had to completely rebuild my head because of them. it is true.. and the b16 springs are different, even the product numbers are different, they can handle slightly higher rpms than the b15 stock springs.  I didnt say they cant handle a race, but i had them fail on me.


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thats a different story 7400k rpms, thats pushing it way too much, no wonder y u floated ur valves

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Re: Brian Crower Cam update

Dustin said 10-15 at the wheels for stage 2 Depending on other mods ( I specifically asked flywheel, crank or, at the wheels)
he did have a few sets in stock at the time of my call.(stage 2)


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imo - i would get the stage 2 but with aftermarket springs or vq spring, but that's cuz i daily drive mine about 60 miles a weekday. these are pretty damn agressive and idle would be a bit funny would sound like a race car tho.

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anyone thats turbo'd have these?

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these are pretty damn agressive and idle would be a bit funny would sound like a race car tho.

I have a video of how it sound with BC and cam sprocket set to -4 degrees.  Let me know if u want it, i'll PM u it.

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shift_jin wrote:

these are pretty damn agressive and idle would be a bit funny would sound like a race car tho.

I have a video of how it sound with BC and cam sprocket set to -4 degrees.  Let me know if u want it, i'll PM u it.

um lemme get that buddy k thanks


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fuk it, i'll just post it.

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sounds like a bc cam alright and it sounds good


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Ever thought about raising your idle up?


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donspecv02 wrote:

Ever thought about raising your idle up?

Of course lol, and i want to advance the timing by 1 degree but i cant get a hold of a consult 2 so ima ask a friend of mine that works at a nissan dealership to see if he can raise it up to 850rpms.

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Can someone explain what the cam sproket is and seting it to negative degress? Kinda how this all works. I know you have to do somthing special when instaling cams on the QR.


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there's a thread about it, all the info is there.

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DirtySpec wrote:

Can someone explain what the cam sproket is and seting it to negative degress? Kinda how this all works. I know you have to do somthing special when instaling cams on the QR.

you dont have to set a cam sprocket...the sprocket is a different aftermarket mod.  just search and learn


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dude I like how lopey those are

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Re: Brian Crower Cam update

damn stage 2 with -4 degree timing sounds wicke