BTW, ignore the AFR readout on the graph, the sniffer wasn't reading correctly.  I'm glad I had my own wideband to use.

heh =] bc cams ftw =]

-r0nni

what did u do different between those runs? the gain difference between those to runs

probably u felt a gain cuz the power band looks like it's shifted uptop

Last edited by nightrider45 (2008-08-27 23:33:06)

nightrider45 wrote:

what did u do different between those runs? the gain difference between those to runs

The bottom run was from months ago when we dynoed the IMS.  The top run was the best we could muster today.  Gains in the upper rev range only, with significant torque losses below 5400 rpms.

hahaha... i was just thinking that doing this makes our cars more like hondas and less like nissans, in the sense that i think that a lot of us bought our cars because of the low-down torque.

Arent the results fairly similar to intalling JWT or Nismo cams? Dont they lose power lower in the range and gain up top as well?

Do the JWT cams lose as much torque?

from looking at it... you might lose somewhere around 15lb of torque and 10hp down low

i was reading the other thread before the dyno and you guys advanced it? isnt it supposed to be retarted on the exhaust side to creat more over lap and On the intake side it's supposed to be advanced to have more over lap.  And for n/a you would want more overlap.  For f/i you would want less overlap to spool faster.

intake timing- advanced= more overlap
exaust timing- retared = more overlap

I think it's something like that.

What if your running a Nismo Intake Cam, would running the stock Intake cam in the exhaust side benefit?  I ask this because on install of my Nismo Exhaust Cam, it cracked, hence could not use it.  Therefore I had to put the stock exhaust cam in there.  So I am wondering if putting the stock intake cam in the exhaust side could remedy this, since Nismo doesn't sell cams seperately!!!!

Cisco C.

Cysco00 wrote:

What if your running a Nismo Intake Cam, would running the stock Intake cam in the exhaust side benefit?  I ask this because on install of my Nismo Exhaust Cam, it cracked, hence could not use it.  Therefore I had to put the stock exhaust cam in there.  So I am wondering if putting the stock intake cam in the exhaust side could remedy this, since Nismo doesn't sell cams seperately!!!!

Cisco C.

You can certainly try it, remember to move the sprocket 5 or 6 teeth clockwise.

nightrider45 wrote:

wat would happen if u dont advace it

The pin is on the opposite side, since it's made as an intake cam, you have to move the sprocket to return it closer to it's original position.

thanks don for all youve done...to bad it didnt turn out the way we wanted it to.

159.3(after) - 155.94(before) = 3.36 max hp gain


told you it was gonna be a 4hp gain

this might be a cheap alternative on a spec with a raised redline, but imo, worthless on a stock car.

illestfob wrote:

The Pitt wrote:

159.3(after) - 155.94(before) = 3.36 max hp gain


told you it was gonna be a 4hp gain

this might be a cheap alternative on a spec with a raised redline, but imo, worthless on a stock car.

your jinxed it!

oh come on now.  all the aftermarket exhaust cams have close-ish to the same specs as the oem intake cam.  it would be like installing an aftermarket exhaust cam but not the intake side.  so who would have thought that it would make similar or better results then a set of jwt's or nismo's.

illestfob wrote:

the butt dyno, thats who

ya the butt dyno really got results for the wiperdragon spacers too

my butt dyno never gave me any gains.  when i took everything off all at once though, i definitely knew it got slower.  im slowly gettin back into the game, not as deep as i once was though.

darsondriss wrote:

matt give me your spare intake cam now.

buy it

spare201 wrote:

Does Don's car have a Aftermarket Intake cam in?  Or is his car running two stock intake cams?

two stock intake cams

The Pitt wrote:

spare201 wrote:

Does Don's car have a Aftermarket Intake cam in?  Or is his car running two stock intake cams?

two stock intake cams

After this Gustav passes I'm doing this, if you cam get 7whp from just changing the exhaust cam imagine if you had an AM intake cam.  Even as it stands now I'd still do it.

Last edited by spare201 (2008-08-28 12:01:35)

The Pitt wrote:

159.3(after) - 155.94(before) = 3.36 max hp gain


told you it was gonna be a 4hp gain

this might be a cheap alternative on a spec with a raised redline, but imo, worthless on a stock car.

It actually made a 7whp gain at 6200 if you look at it.  There's tons of torque losses though.

The Pitt wrote:

donspecv02 wrote:

The Pitt wrote:

159.3(after) - 155.94(before) = 3.36 max hp gain


told you it was gonna be a 4hp gain

this might be a cheap alternative on a spec with a raised redline, but imo, worthless on a stock car.

It actually made a 7whp gain at 6200 if you look at it.  There's tons of torque losses though.

7hp isnt worth it, especially cause it takes away ALOT of usable powerband on a stock redline

I'm not disputing that.  I was just saying that it did make that up top.  The losses in tq are only gonna make a difference in 1st gear, after that you're always above 4600-4800 rpms.  The car is still really torquey.  I'm gonna run it at the track on Saturday probably to see if I can improve on my previous time.

i want turbo results still anyone??

did you guys even try with 5 teeth advanced?