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2008-08-27 14:25:00 (19 weeks 9 hours 21 minutes 56 seconds) #1849313 | | view posts since this          #1 

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More efficient oil change

ok so i was i doing my oil change today and i had this idea which seemed to work so im sharing it. i did everything like usual but and after i put the new filter on (with the drain plug still out) i opened up the filler cap and blew into it. i could hear more pissing out so i just kept at it and  after about a min of blowing it stopped draining. dont know if anyone else has tried this but seems like an easy way of getting more old oil out.

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2008-08-27 14:28:48 (19 weeks 9 hours 18 minutes 8 seconds) #1849315 | | view posts since this          #2 

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im to lazy and would pry get light headed lol


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2008-08-27 14:29:13 (19 weeks 9 hours 17 minutes 43 seconds) #1849316 | | view posts since this          #3 

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Re: More efficient oil change

i usually open the filler cap and let out the dip stick prior to drainage. Although I'ver never tried to blow into the orrifices, I would like to think that I drained out as much as possible w/ my method.


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2008-08-27 14:32:03 (19 weeks 9 hours 14 minutes 53 seconds) #1849318 | | view posts since this          #4 

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hmm good call on the dipstick dunno why i never thought of these tricks before. also saw this new mobil 1 0w-30 ...??? wtf is that shit said it was "fuel efficient" right on the face

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2008-08-27 14:34:06 (19 weeks 9 hours 12 minutes 51 seconds) #1849320 | | view posts since this          #5 

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I ususally have about an extra half quart kicking around so i just run that through and let it drain out. Comes out with the dirty oil mixed and then starts to look cleaner.


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2008-08-27 15:31:06 (19 weeks 8 hours 15 minutes 51 seconds) #1849376 | | view posts since this          #6 

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Just a thought, how much moisture is in the breath you are pushing through your motor?  Could this even possibly have a negative effect?


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2008-08-27 17:52:05 (19 weeks 5 hours 54 minutes 52 seconds) #1849469 | | view posts since this          #7 

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if you really wanna drain as much oil as possible, unscrew the lower oil pan and let it drip for a bit. a lot more work tho since you have to reseal teh pan

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2008-09-15 23:57:01 (16 weeks 1 day 23 hours 49 minutes 56 seconds) #1865904 | | view posts since this          #8 

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once i have removed the filter and oil plug i just turn the car over without starting it. "half cranks" if you will. Usually shoots all the oil out and as long as you don't fully start your car no damage.


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2008-09-15 23:58:46 (16 weeks 1 day 23 hours 48 minutes 11 seconds) #1865907 | | view posts since this          #9 

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Re: More efficient oil change

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once i have removed the filter and oil plug i just turn the car over without starting it. "half cranks" if you will. Usually shoots all the oil out and as long as you don't fully start your car no damage.

Yeah, don't do that.


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2008-09-16 00:14:32 (16 weeks 1 day 23 hours 32 minutes 25 seconds) #1865911 | | view posts since this          #10 

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removing the cap/dip stick helps prevent a vacuum from forming.  Think of it this way.  Take a straw in a drink.  Put your finger overtop of the straw and lift it out of the drink. (pulling it out of the drink would be like when you remove the plug.

No liquid escapes because of air lock.  Remove your finger and it pours out.

I always lift the dip stick up a tad and go ahead and unscrew the cap.  I also usually walk away and get into something else so it usually drains for at least 15 minutes.


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2008-09-16 20:09:30 (16 weeks 1 day 3 hours 37 minutes 27 seconds) #1866523 | | view posts since this          #11 

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removing the cap/dip stick helps prevent a vacuum from forming.  Think of it this way.  Take a straw in a drink.  Put your finger overtop of the straw and lift it out of the drink. (pulling it out of the drink would be like when you remove the plug.

No liquid escapes because of air lock.  Remove your finger and it pours out.

I always lift the dip stick up a tad and go ahead and unscrew the cap.  I also usually walk away and get into something else so it usually drains for at least 15 minutes.

Yeah, but thanks to the pcv system, there won't be any air lock in the system. Think of the PCV system as a hole in that straw just below your finger.

By all means, take the oil cap off before you drain the oil, to make sure you're gonna be able to get it off and add new oil. But even if you don't it'll still drain just fine.


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2008-09-16 20:27:35 (16 weeks 1 day 3 hours 19 minutes 22 seconds) #1866543 | | view posts since this          #12 

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xbrandonx wrote:

removing the cap/dip stick helps prevent a vacuum from forming.  Think of it this way.  Take a straw in a drink.  Put your finger overtop of the straw and lift it out of the drink. (pulling it out of the drink would be like when you remove the plug.

No liquid escapes because of air lock.  Remove your finger and it pours out.

I always lift the dip stick up a tad and go ahead and unscrew the cap.  I also usually walk away and get into something else so it usually drains for at least 15 minutes.

Yeah, but thanks to the pcv system, there won't be any air lock in the system. Think of the PCV system as a hole in that straw just below your finger.

By all means, take the oil cap off before you drain the oil, to make sure you're gonna be able to get it off and add new oil. But even if you don't it'll still drain just fine.

Not to be a negative Nancy here, but is the moisture from his breath bad for the motor?


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2008-09-16 20:32:17 (16 weeks 1 day 3 hours 14 minutes 40 seconds) #1866548 | | view posts since this          #13 

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armadnigeneral wrote:

xbrandonx wrote:

removing the cap/dip stick helps prevent a vacuum from forming.  Think of it this way.  Take a straw in a drink.  Put your finger overtop of the straw and lift it out of the drink. (pulling it out of the drink would be like when you remove the plug.

No liquid escapes because of air lock.  Remove your finger and it pours out.

I always lift the dip stick up a tad and go ahead and unscrew the cap.  I also usually walk away and get into something else so it usually drains for at least 15 minutes.

Yeah, but thanks to the pcv system, there won't be any air lock in the system. Think of the PCV system as a hole in that straw just below your finger.

By all means, take the oil cap off before you drain the oil, to make sure you're gonna be able to get it off and add new oil. But even if you don't it'll still drain just fine.

Not to be a negative Nancy here, but is the moisture from his breath bad for the motor?

Probably not really...then again it wouldn't be good either.

There's so much oil that's gonna be left over in the bottom of the pan and up in the engine anyway...if you've ever dropped your lower oil pan, you know what I'm talking about. So all these little tricks are pretty worthless...just take off the cap, take out the plug, let it drain for five minutes or so (personally I only give it like two minutes), then plug it back up. If you measure how much oil you get out from five minutes to fifteen minutes, you'll find it's very little.


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Re: More efficient oil change

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Jarek wrote:

once i have removed the filter and oil plug i just turn the car over without starting it. "half cranks" if you will. Usually shoots all the oil out and as long as you don't fully start your car no damage.

Yeah, don't do that.

I usually don't i just did it this last time. Figured it'd be ok. opinion on why not?


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I put my hooptie on ramps, makes it a lil more comfy under there and just let it drain for a little bit.  Then I take an extra quart or two and flush it through there, gets her really clean.  Let that drain for a while

0w30 starts very thin, makes your car work less hard, starting and warming up, thereby allowing it to run more efficiently, hence fuel efficiency


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I put my hooptie on ramps, makes it a lil more comfy under there and just let it drain for a little bit.  Then I take an extra quart or two and flush it through there, gets her really clean.  Let that drain for a while

0w30 starts very thin, makes your car work less hard, starting and warming up, thereby allowing it to run more efficiently, hence fuel efficiency

With the size of my wheels I can reach through the spokes and grab the filter with it on the ground.  My arms are also long enough for me to reach the plug without crawling under it so mine stays on the ground, haha.


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the angle of the car on the ramps allows the oil easier and allows more oil to flow than a level ground change...only reason i suggested.


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Letting your car run for until it gets up to temp. is also another way to make sure you get most of the oil out... I usually leave the drain plug out for about 30 mins, and by then it's barely dripping out. I change my oil a lot sooner than I'm supposed to, so even if there's a little bit left in it's not a bad thing.


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when i do my oil change, i use an Air Bellows, like a foot air pump, Attach it to the valve cover where the oil cap should be, and give it a few good pumps.  I usually get about 2 extra cups of oil to come out.


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when i do my oil change, i use an Air Bellows, like a foot air pump, Attach it to the valve cover where the oil cap should be, and give it a few good pumps.  I usually get about 2 extra cups of oil to come out.

Put that down the dip stick tube next time.

My dads 335i does not have a drain plug. YOu have hook up the machine, with a tube, down the dipstick tube, hook a air hose to it, and suck it out.

kinda a pain, but it gets ALL the oil out.


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once i have removed the filter and oil plug i just turn the car over without starting it. "half cranks" if you will. Usually shoots all the oil out and as long as you don't fully start your car no damage.

that just sounds so bad...like horrible...like it hurt my eyes reading it.


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i did this on my dad's 98 Navigator just a few days ago (7 quart oil capacity). about half a standard red party cup of oil came out. not a bad idea, and there can't be nearly enough moisture in your breath to do ANY kind of damage. i just don't see it happening.


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