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Barry will be recieving the following work..
96mm 11:1 C/R pistons
Forged H-beam rods
ARP rod bolts
Fully ported heads with blending/reshaping of the chambers, guides and ports
FI-R custom ground camshafts
FI-R springs
FI-R titanium retainers
Fully blueprinted/balanced bottom end
New bearings, seals, etc..
350z intake manifold, ported and modified to work in FWD configuration
Ported throttle body
Custom equal length headers/y-pipe with 2.5" tubing
FI-R 2.5" VQ swap exhaust system
Custom ROM tuned ECU with 8K RPM rev limiter, modified fuel, timing and CVTC maps
The usual bolt-on's will be applied as well..
This thing should make in excess of 300whp, all motor.. 
Started porting work on the cylinder heads.. These heads flow well from the factory, so, it's not very necessary to "hog" them out. I modify the bowl area, substantially, to remove casting ridges and flash.. especially the ridge on the short side of the runner, which is left from the casting die. I also enlarge, reshape the long side of the runner/bowl.. This improves flow, without sacrificing port velocity. I remove the material that shrouds the injector nozzle.. it's only there for emissions crap.. and slightly enlarge the port's overall shape/diameter.. Again, "hogging out" the port isn't necessary, and actually slows port velocity.
Intake port.. Before..
Intake port.. After..
Reshaping the bowl area.. and blending the casting into the valve seat. It's hard to tell from this pic/angle, but, the transition on the backside from the casting to the valve seat is HORRIBLE.. there's a big bump/indention.. I've started to smooth/blend it in the port on the right..
Old pics from tearing down the engine..

Cams came in on Friday.. as well as the exhaust headers.. Busy, busy.. 
Travis
Last edited by Trav4011 (2008-10-26 05:26:45)
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Michael





aww no turbo 
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SHOULD be up around 300whp, all motor.. this thing should haul ass WITHOUT a turbo. 
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Michael





yea, but i wanted to see him make the 450 or whatever you were saying about a turboed vq 
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Steven C.


You owe me a keyboard, fap fap fap!!!

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Scotty




a turbo 3.5 would be sick.
Travis would you sell me the 3.5 mounts?

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3.5 mounts? It's the same as the 3 liter.. You would need to have me rewire the car for the newer ECU, though.. or, have me swap over the non-vtc timing components to your new motor.
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Scotty




EE, DIRTY POP!
looks like you might have the BW car back soon 
well discuss this pm
back on topic
This sounds like a sick build. i hope all goes well

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Gordon


whats the price tag on this build travis
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Erik




Wow! Its going to be a beast!
Cant wait to see when its done!

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Dam barry! its your turn now bet you cant wait!
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EDIT: oops double post
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GORDON25 wrote:
whats the price tag on this build travis
A lot.. lol..
He's north of 10K for the engine build with all of the port work, cams, valvetrain, ECU work, etc.. but, this (I'm fairly sure) will be a 300whp, 8K RPM VQ..
Travis
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Its happening
Deep smile
A real motor
Maybe we can get the build published in hot rod
Looks yummy
I can’t believe I’m watching mine
This is a wild feeling
It might be my age
Or the cool fall morning air
But what did James Bond say
As the pretty blonde Fay
Ran her hand up his …. say
“oh my
I think I feel a slight stiffening"
edit
when i grow up
then i'll learn to spell
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Oh, it's just getting started..
Everything is still all dirty and grimey.. wait till the build pics start to come. 
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ChRiSSpec_V wrote:
Dam barry! its your turn now bet you cant wait!
I am jumping up and down
I can't wait to really drive one
I was calculating stuff [gear ratios, speeds, tire sizes ,etc]
My new hobby
8000 rpm blew me away
It’s hard to believe
I’m trying to decide what I’m better geared for
1/8 or 1/4
Looks like I need to sand bag a bit w/ 24.5 in tires
48 mph in first
76mph in 2nd [possible to run the 1/8 in two gears?]
100mph in 3rd , a little short for the 1/4
But omg on the street
132 mph in 4th [where's that turbo] a little long for the 1/4
What a lovely playful gear for the street though
This looks to be crazy
YES!

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Trav4011 wrote:
Oh, it's just getting started..
Everything is still all dirty and grimey.. wait till the build pics start to come.
WOOT!

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alicia


oooooo
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charles



Yogi B wrote:
ChRiSSpec_V wrote:
Dam barry! its your turn now bet you cant wait!
I am jumping up and down
I can't wait to really drive one
I was calculating stuff [gear ratios, speeds, tire sizes ,etc]
My new hobby
8000 rpm blew me away
It’s hard to believe
I’m trying to decide what I’m better geared for
1/8 or 1/4
Looks like I need to sand bag a bit w/ 24.5 in tires
48 mph in first
76mph in 2nd [possible to run the 1/8 in two gears?]
100mph in 3rd , a little short for the 1/4
But omg on the street
132 mph in 4th [where's that turbo] a little long for the 1/4
What a lovely playful gear for the street though
This looks to be crazy
YES!
just wait till you can tell people"well i did 130 in 4th but i havent tried 5th or 6th yet"

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Its so weird
Everybody here thought it was bs
[It’s gone on too long, and I keep saying I’m taking it down in a couple of weeks, since April]
Till the other night
Now!
It’s that damn little v6
And there was no v6
lol
These guys have some $
They are going to mob Travis
When I get this back
Aimee did pull off the block party
No they did not allow the burnouts
We substituted my daughter’s birthday
Which was somewhat close to the date Aimee set up.
All the kids [18-26 lol] came out played music and guitars
Danced and sang
A regular show
1st block party the hua ever allowed
Of course we had to have it all cleaned and quit by
10 ON THE CLOCK
We started at 3PM
Great fun
Last edited by Yogi B (2008-08-18 09:04:12)

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Matt Pitt


this thing is gonna be sick nasty! plus when you get bored you can just put nitrous on it lol
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superspec wrote:
Yogi B wrote:
ChRiSSpec_V wrote:
Dam barry! its your turn now bet you cant wait!
I am jumping up and down
I can't wait to really drive one
I was calculating stuff [gear ratios, speeds, tire sizes ,etc]
My new hobby
8000 rpm blew me away
It’s hard to believe
I’m trying to decide what I’m better geared for
1/8 or 1/4
Looks like I need to sand bag a bit w/ 24.5 in tires
48 mph in first
76mph in 2nd [possible to run the 1/8 in two gears?]
100mph in 3rd , a little short for the 1/4
But omg on the street
132 mph in 4th [where's that turbo] a little long for the 1/4
What a lovely playful gear for the street though
This looks to be crazy
YES!just wait till you can tell people"well i did 130 in 4th but i havent tried 5th or 6th yet"
i cant remember, but i think im already in 5th gear at only 120 lol.

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^Must be doing the maxima final drive ??
My car has to go into 5th at the 1/4 mile which is about 105
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Finishing up the first head.. I've got roughly a full day into the first one.. half a day on Saturday, and half a day, today.. I still have about 30 minutes worth of "clean up" work to do with a buffing wheel and sanding.. These things are going to look killer inside and out.
Travis
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Intake port, finished up..
Exhaust port BEFORE work..
Exhaust port AFTER work..
I actually enlarged the exhaust ports a good bit right at where the port exits the cylinder head.. There seemed to be unecessary choke point there, with material in the casting coming to a "funnel".. I took a good .020" off of each side.. and enlarged each runner slightly.. by removing material on the divider.
Travis
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Matt


Saweet!

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Art

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James




Barry,
Whats the set up for engine management? JWT reflash? Megasquirt?

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SER02 wrote:
Barry,
Whats the set up for engine management? JWT reflash? Megasquirt?
jwt reflash
Custom fuel and timing maps and raised rpm limit
It’s non tunable in the sense there can be no safc's
edit
its been a long day
Last edited by Yogi B (2008-08-19 12:52:56)

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Yogi B wrote:
SER02 wrote:
Barry,
Whats the set up for engine management? JWT reflash? Megasquirt?jwt reflash
Custom fuel and timing maps and raised rpm limit
It’s non tunable in the sense there can be no safc's
edit
its been a long day
you may not retain AC(there is an AC plug on the AEM harness... so im not 100% on that), but I am sure Travis could throw AEM on there. Its fun and intimidating driving around with an open laptop.
plus, you could fine tune everything. get your motor to its peak performance. and, travis wouldn't have to source you an ECU. just a 1050-u with harness(+cobra TB). maybe 2500 dollars. minus whatever a stock ECM costs and a JWT reflash. and I have about 3 VQ harnesses sitting around, for anthing that you need to splice in, along with every extra part you could think of.
Travis you could beat your swap record and have it done in like a week. and you don't have to reflash anything. just tune.
just thinking....

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While I would love to toss a standalone in EVERY car that I build... realistically, it's just not very feasible.. Most of my customers wouldn't have a clue as far as tuning.. and honestly, the reliability of a tuned stock ECU is awesome.
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Trav4011 wrote:
While I would love to toss a standalone in EVERY car that I build... realistically, it's just not very feasible.. Most of my customers wouldn't have a clue as far as tuning.. and honestly, the reliability of a tuned stock ECU is awesome.
may be more reliable, but a stock ECM with various piggybacks could never be tweaked like a standalone. I couldn't tune my car, its crazy the amount of parameters you can change, but with a good dyno tune, I could get more horse out of a standalone than a stock ECM. and man, it would be awesome to see barrys car tweaked with a standalone. 310-320whp maybe?..... I heard the megasquirt is pretty cheap, and it still uses the stock ECM for some things.....

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Barrys build is like something I dream about having. If I sent you a core, could you build and send one to me same as barrys? $$?

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stephen
i couldnt begin to explain how jealous i am. haha. son of a bitch. one fine day. fuck turbo. 300whp all motor? DONE! of course it costs like....10k more haha

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SER02 wrote:
Trav4011 wrote:
While I would love to toss a standalone in EVERY car that I build... realistically, it's just not very feasible.. Most of my customers wouldn't have a clue as far as tuning.. and honestly, the reliability of a tuned stock ECU is awesome.
may be more reliable, but a stock ECM with various piggybacks could never be tweaked like a standalone. I couldn't tune my car, its crazy the amount of parameters you can change, but with a good dyno tune, I could get more horse out of a standalone than a stock ECM. and man, it would be awesome to see barrys car tweaked with a standalone. 310-320whp maybe?..... I heard the megasquirt is pretty cheap, and it still uses the stock ECM for some things.....
Sure, you can tune a lightly modded N/A motor with a reflashed ECU and get the same power as a standalone.. Tuning via MAF is much more accurate than tuning by MAP sensor.. "Mail order" tunes usually suck, but, being able to provide data back to the company doing the reflash, enables them to "fine tune" the reflash. It may take 2-3 tries, but, I work hand in hand with JWT, so it's not a big deal.
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SER02 wrote:
Barrys build is like something I dream about having. If I sent you a core, could you build and send one to me same as barrys? $$?
If you promise not to rip your rear engine mount out.. sure.. 
But, all BS aside, yes.. I can build a longblock for you.
Travis
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sick.
I didn't know thats how they did the reflash.... so you just datalog for them, and they send you an insane reflash? or do they send you a reflash from a different car, like a modded N/A Z or something then they fine tune it with your data?
or did I read wrong...

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We start with a base file, and then provide datalogs.. they go in and tweak them based on the data from that specific car..
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Trav4011 wrote:
We start with a base file, and then provide datalogs.. they go in and tweak them based on the data from that specific car..
See what I mean
How would I so this on my own
While I love the idea of a stand alone
I could not match Travis and jwt working together
Travis is not the typical builder and I think much of his support remains unseen
When he talks about tuning
He offered to go to the track w/me when I pick it up
w/ the slicks mounted and help me set it up
This guy really is above and beyond

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Trav4011 wrote:
SER02 wrote:
Trav4011 wrote:
While I would love to toss a standalone in EVERY car that I build... realistically, it's just not very feasible.. Most of my customers wouldn't have a clue as far as tuning.. and honestly, the reliability of a tuned stock ECU is awesome.
may be more reliable, but a stock ECM with various piggybacks could never be tweaked like a standalone. I couldn't tune my car, its crazy the amount of parameters you can change, but with a good dyno tune, I could get more horse out of a standalone than a stock ECM. and man, it would be awesome to see barrys car tweaked with a standalone. 310-320whp maybe?..... I heard the megasquirt is pretty cheap, and it still uses the stock ECM for some things.....
Sure, you can tune a lightly modded N/A motor with a reflashed ECU and get the same power as a standalone.. Tuning via MAF is much more accurate than tuning by MAP sensor.. "Mail order" tunes usually suck, but, being able to provide data back to the company doing the reflash, enables them to "fine tune" the reflash. It may take 2-3 tries, but, I work hand in hand with JWT, so it's not a big deal.
when he told me about this process i about flipped
this is the real deal

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tuning a standalone really shouldnt be left up to the average person. ive been playing with the tune on my car for a good while and there is still lots of things that i wouldnt think of messing with.

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superspec wrote:
tuning a standalone really shouldnt be left up to the average person. ive been playing with the tune on my car for a good while and there is still lots of things that i wouldnt think of messing with.
+ 1
The car will still carry
egt and afr gauges just for safety's sake

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Yogi B wrote:
Trav4011 wrote:
We start with a base file, and then provide datalogs.. they go in and tweak them based on the data from that specific car..
See what I mean
How would I so this on my own
While I love the idea of a stand alone
I could not match Travis and jwt working together
Travis is not the typical builder and I think much of his support remains unseen
When he talks about tuning
He offered to go to the track w/me when I pick it up
w/ the slicks mounted and help me set it up
This guy really is above and beyond
he figures if hes going to get blamed for mount failure he might as well have some fun lol
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