pics of it?

pics/vids/sound and everything will be up saturday

im gonna try and have api keep this deal up till next weekend, but guys this is a very good price for a bolt on race header.

This is lame...but, what supporting hardware and fab is necessary for this to work and work well. I must admit Rako, you are very ballsy considering you have not been the luckiest person on this forum.

I havent had the greatest of luck, but I want to get tthe most out of this car.

the million dollar question again.... what would you use or what would the provide to not get a CEL..??

rakonismo wrote:

08SPEC wrote:

This is lame...but, what supporting hardware and fab is necessary for this to work and work well. I must admit Rako, you are very ballsy considering you have not been the luckiest person on this forum.

I havent had the greatest of luck, but I want to get tthe most out of this car.

ballsy isnt the word, its called fucking insane.

simply put, ill be honest... without crazy people like me and jeff, there would be no aftermarket for this car.

and if you want more aftermarket, you gotta buy the parts that are released.

ill be honest... this whole api thing is NOT FREE, my wallet is taking a serious beating right now because i want to invest in this community and get everyone some good shit.

Don't worry Rak, most of us here greatly appreciate what you and Jeff are doing.  I'm  ready to begin supporting your hard work.  I'm just waiting for a few more answers before I add the headers to my cart.  With that, whenever you can have the anwers for us, just let us know and I'll be behind you.  It's not critical that I receive the answers that I want.  I just to know a few things before plunging. 

I hope companies like API see a good turnout of buyers and make a nice profit.  I want these companies that are putting themselves out on a limb for us to be able to trust us a market so that we continue to get support.

I sent an e-mail asking API about the downpipe and this is there response to me.  I sent them another e-mail inquiring about the manufacture of the downpipe, and am currently awaiting a reply.



On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:47 AM, <customerservice@apimotoring.com> wrote:

    Header does not include downpipe.  I would recommend ordering as soon as you can
    though, we are thinking of raising the price soon. The good materials are
    costing more than we planned, plus we expect to take a decent amount of
    orders, so we will produce and ship on a first come basis.

    I hope that works for you


    gavin

so after all this time of trying to get you parts... all you do is complain?

Last edited by rakonismo (2008-07-28 17:49:07)

i know dude.. i was hoping you would be the test car for the intake manifold

well the b15 spot is up for grabs.

sticky667 wrote:

boohoo. the economy is shitty and you expect everything to stay cheap.. get real.


robert is the man!! too bad i don't have an extra ride for the IM

boohoo usually a company would have taken that into consideration before they announced the price. did the economy take that big of a dive in 1 week that they are scared they're going to all of a sudden loose massive amounts of money? i think not.

wow i expected this from all of you...

anyways, im gonna be straight here.

why does everyone keep saying is there a CEL fix or not? if its costing this much i doubt api would leave you guys assed out on that.

and another thing, if something costs more than what they are selling for, why would the company sell it at the price.

im certain that api still is running the group buy of $350, you enter an SERHEADER code and it knocks the price from $450 to $350.

if you guys are not interested in this, cool.

i went out and got us some parts made.

i am starting to realize that maybe there is a very good reason why aftermarket companies decided to ignore this platform.

rakonismo wrote:

wow i expected this from all of you...

anyways, im gonna be straight here.

why does everyone keep saying is there a CEL fix or not? if its costing this much i doubt api would leave you guys assed out on that.

and another thing, if something costs more than what they are selling for, why would the company sell it at the price.

im certain that api still is running the group buy of $350, you enter an SERHEADER code and it knocks the price from $450 to $350.

if you guys are not interested in this, cool.

i went out and got us some parts made.

i am starting to realize that maybe there is a very good reason why aftermarket companies decided to ignore this platform.

Is their reason for ignoring us because we have questions?  You're acting like you're being attacked.  From what I've seen, no one is attacking you.  Everyone is greatful for what you're doing.  The only thing people want are answers.  There has been many questions but barely any answers have been given at all.  It's natural for consumers to ask questions.  We can't blindly make a purchase.  No one is saying that they won't buy it.  People just want to know what to be ready for WHEN they buy it.  Even if there is no cel fix, I'm still interested in purchasing.  I just want to know if I should make other plans to take care of that.

Again, no one is attacking you or the company.  People just want some answers.  You are a representative for the company so of course everyone is going to drill you for the answers.  I did see a few people complain about the price.  That would happen even if it was $5.  As it's always said, if you wanna play, you gotta pay.  I think most people here want to play so, they will pay.  Besides, there are no other toys to play with right now so, they are in a win win situation. 

I'm willing to bet that when answers start rolling to the questions, header sales are going to start rolling into the company.  A company that truly wants to do well will listen to what the consumer is saying.  You said companies are ignoring us because of our atittude.  If this is the case, they're ignoring us because they want to produce whatever they want without listening to the market.  How smart is that?  That is why companies fail.  They fail because they fail to establish dialouge.

Now, if the company tells the consumers, we will fix the CEL but it will cost $50 more.  That's dialouge.  The customer can then say, no thank you, we'll solve the issue on our own, and still buy the pipes.  Or, they can say, all right, that's fair, sign me up.

Anyway, there's far more serious buyers here than whiners, I think.  You can't just listen to one or two whiners and then snap back at us buy saying that we don't support you.  Take it out on them and not the community as a whole.  Not everyone will play.  I bet you there will be more players than not, however. 

Just keep us posted on the developments.  There are a lot of us here waiting to SUPPORT the products.  As consumers, we just need some clarity on what we're buying.  I don't want to receive a box full of Magic Beans.

you people fail. seriously. i agree 100% with what jeff said.

everyone needs a place to start and learn, i wasnt implying the newbs.  but EXPECTING a company to tell u or have a set "fix" is stupid, plain out fuckin stupid.  its actually unheard of so yeah.... if ur new, u wanna learn, this forum is WONDERFUL and ppl in the chatbox can help at the drop of a dime.

Lame people? You can take this as a direct response to your ignorant remarks:

What you need to take into account is that some of us mod our cars because we like it and don't have the time and energy to put serious thought into how to overcome certain issues. I drive my car everyday all day and cannot afford to have my car down for a while, while I search for fixes for issues. Hence why I want completely bolt on parts with no problems. Forgive me for fucking wanting something completely bolt on.

I severely appreciate API's interest and I will support there products in due time, but be fucking serious, who the hell would spend 400$ bones with zero information on a product. I for one won't. Again I apologize for being a SMART CONSUMER.

The header isn't even finished and you're giving us a hard time for asking questions?! First off, the FG platform has been out 3 years now, so don't even use that, because even they only have the basic bolt ons and maybe a few sets of cams out, If that. Tuning, Hondata works, but no where near as well as the Kpro counterpart for the K20a2.

We want answers before we buy and you aren't giving us anything at all; only to flame us for not buying a product that is claimed it's done when it's not. I feel bad for those who ordered, because they probably won't see their header in a timely manner.

since when does having a CEL and a header cause any problems other than the annoying light on the dash?   

if you want a CEL fix, get a spacer like every other car does.   or you can be safe and move the o2 bung behind the cat. (before you install the header)  then it will be bolt on.  with the exception of extending a few wires...

geezus you guys are cry babies.

because it's a public forum!!!!! 

MajorMods wrote:

everyone needs a place to start and learn, i wasnt implying the newbs.  but EXPECTING a company to tell u or have a set "fix" is stupid, plain out fuckin stupid.  its actually unheard of so yeah.... if ur new, u wanna learn, this forum is WONDERFUL and ppl in the chatbox can help at the drop of a dime.

you're being a dick.

hotshot did it when the header first came out for the spec. i'd expect companies to at least try.

cute02spec *Thumbs up*

see i understand why people are so hesitant. in light of what happened with wrp, people want definite answers and results from independent reviewers (and are concerned with passing emissions). But logistically speaking its not going to happen right away. Ok, so a no name company decided to make a header--it will take a while for it to be reviewed. we don't drive si's where Import Tuner is ready with dyno results before the release... we drive sentras and sadly, not many people care and consequently we're not going to have too much support except for the few that have stepped up to the plate. There is simply one product available and very high demand, so they can charge whatever the hell they want for it (they need to get the money invested back somehow)(also if you're complaining about the price be glad you don't drive a BMW and looking for cheap prices on aftermarket stuff) . But the bottom-line is if you are hesitant about buying it without results, don't. Nobody has a gun to your head. And for the people that did already place an order, I guess that that bet may have warranted a $100 discount.

well considering the company producing them is in CA. 

they will mark it as offroad use only and then you can figure out what to do with your CEL, because it won't be their problem anymore. 

cute02spec wrote:

Heh, comparing aftermarket parts for an $80k car to a $20k car is a bit like apples and oranges now

well that may be on the extreme side though. i was thinking that a decent set of headers (like     Active Autowerke) for a e36 m3 (a car that you can get for 13k) will still be $1300

fuck all of you that are coming at me because I DONT WANT  A FUCKING CEL LIGHT. Why? because we have emissions. IDK how hard it is to swap the header back to stock on the b16, but I do know how hard it is on the b15. I've never owned a car that needed emissions.....sorry I bought a b16 sentra that I want to mod. MY BAD. I go off of what WRP did to people. or How abotu Kar Life? you can eat shit and die if you think Im gunna buy a header with no pics or any info. I hope this company does well, but prove it 1st b4 u bitch that no1 is spending 450$