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2008-07-23 17:50:24 (24 weeks 2 hours 41 minutes 9 seconds) #1816405 | | view posts since this          #1 

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Helical LSD

I was unable to find a spec-v in my area with the helical LSD I was wondering if the package can still be bought and installed onto the car now?

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2008-07-23 17:57:17 (24 weeks 2 hours 34 minutes 17 seconds) #1816426 | | view posts since this          #2 

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Re: Helical LSD

nope only comes in trans


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2008-07-23 17:57:53 (24 weeks 2 hours 33 minutes 41 seconds) #1816427 | | view posts since this          #3 

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Re: Helical LSD

dont all specs hav lsd


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2008-07-23 19:08:47 (24 weeks 1 hour 22 minutes 47 seconds) #1816530 | | view posts since this          #4 

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Re: Helical LSD

I believe it was optional. I don't think all specs have it. I know I have it though...

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2008-07-23 19:18:44 (24 weeks 1 hour 12 minutes 50 seconds) #1816539 | | view posts since this          #5 

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Re: Helical LSD

how od you know if you have lsd? is it in the stikcer thingy?


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2008-07-23 19:30:38 (24 weeks 1 hour 56 seconds) #1816553 | | view posts since this          #6 

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Re: Helical LSD

mine doesn't ahve it which i honestly believe has made a difference in me breaking 14's in the 1/4's.  I didn't know mine didn't have it until almost 2 weeks after i bought my car.  i realised it because i went into the dealership and saw another spec with it listed on teh sticker for an extra $2-400 or something and then looked at mine and noticed it wasn't included.  i was bummed.  i really wish the option to have a LSD put in without paying 6K for a whole new tranny install.


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2008-07-23 21:13:52 (23 weeks 6 days 23 hours 17 minutes 42 seconds) #1816668 | | view posts since this          #7 

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If you don't track the car or drive in snow you might never notice the difference.

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2008-07-23 21:15:45 (23 weeks 6 days 23 hours 15 minutes 49 seconds) #1816670 | | view posts since this          #8 

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Re: Helical LSD

every se-r from the b13's up to atleast the b15's have lsd in them


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2008-07-23 21:18:43 (23 weeks 6 days 23 hours 12 minutes 51 seconds) #1816672 | | view posts since this          #9 

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Re: Helical LSD

All specs have LSD. That was one of Nissan's selling points.



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2008-07-23 21:22:55 (23 weeks 6 days 23 hours 8 minutes 39 seconds) #1816676 | | view posts since this          #10 

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Re: Helical LSD

It became an option on the b16, it was no-longer standard on specs which is bad for spec-v buyers.

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2008-07-23 21:26:25 (23 weeks 6 days 23 hours 5 minutes 9 seconds) #1816684 | | view posts since this          #11 

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Re: Helical LSD

I see on Nissanusa.com that it is a $400 option, money well spent.

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2008-07-23 21:27:37 (23 weeks 6 days 23 hours 3 minutes 57 seconds) #1816687 | | view posts since this          #12 

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Re: Helical LSD

thats retarded... nissan is really killing the se-r name...


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2008-07-23 23:17:51 (23 weeks 6 days 21 hours 13 minutes 43 seconds) #1816821 | | view posts since this          #13 

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Re: Helical LSD

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It became an option on the b16, it was no-longer standard on specs which is bad for spec-v buyers.

Yep it sure is an option. When I was shopping around for Specs most of the ones I saw did not have it. I finally found 1 fully loaded Spec not far from my home that had it.


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2008-07-23 23:36:54 (23 weeks 6 days 20 hours 54 minutes 40 seconds) #1816851 | | view posts since this          #14 

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Re: Helical LSD

I wanted one, but my dealer only had LSD cars that were fully loaded, and I didn't want to spend extra money for useless sunroof and audio package. Can't tell unless you floor it in a hard corner, lol wheelspin.


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2008-07-24 00:40:26 (23 weeks 6 days 19 hours 51 minutes 8 seconds) #1816976 | | view posts since this          #15 

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2008-07-24 00:55:59 (23 weeks 6 days 19 hours 35 minutes 35 seconds) #1816997 | | view posts since this          #16 

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Re: Helical LSD

i believe the b15 specs have lsd standard,while the b16's have it optional.Unless you track it it doesnt make difference.Also,the dealer can install it,but its gonna cost you.


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2008-07-24 01:01:04 (23 weeks 6 days 19 hours 30 minutes 30 seconds) #1817002 | | view posts since this          #17 

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Re: Helical LSD

I thought someone in here actually had the lsd installed in there spec after buying it.Im curious why they would have to buy a whole new tranny.


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2008-07-24 02:21:46 (23 weeks 6 days 18 hours 9 minutes 48 seconds) #1817042 | | view posts since this          #18 

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how do you know if your has it?


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2008-07-24 11:37:32 (23 weeks 6 days 8 hours 54 minutes 2 seconds) #1817206 | | view posts since this          #19 

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Re: Helical LSD

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If you don't track the car or drive in snow you might never notice the difference.

Only an idiot wouldn't notice.  I used to drive a car that didn't have an LSD.  I can definately tell the difference.  I am an aggressive driver though.

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2008-07-24 12:00:13 (23 weeks 6 days 8 hours 31 minutes 21 seconds) #1817238 | | view posts since this          #20 

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how od you know if you have lsd? is it in the stikcer thingy?

yes it will be on your window sticker

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2008-07-28 16:10:08 (23 weeks 2 days 4 hours 21 minutes 26 seconds) #1821051 | | view posts since this          #21 

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Re: Helical LSD

It is a $400 option, as far as I was informed by Nissan when I sold their vehicles was that it must also have the Summer Tires option. Most common is finding the vehicle completely loaded roof, fosgate system, with Summer Tires and LSD or bare bones without summer tires and LSD.

B15 SpecV's had LSD's I believe SE-R's were open differentials, even the 5 Speed SE-R's... Though it may have been an option on the SE-R, not 100% sure, I know I have never seen it.

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^^^ All B15 Spec Vs had LSD standard.  SE-Rs did not and it was not an option the best to my knowledge.  I have never heard of a SE-R have LSD


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2008-07-28 18:34:16 (23 weeks 2 days 1 hour 57 minutes 18 seconds) #1821225 | | view posts since this          #23 

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Re: Helical LSD

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gotak wrote:

If you don't track the car or drive in snow you might never notice the difference.

Only an idiot wouldn't notice.  I used to drive a car that didn't have an LSD.  I can definately tell the difference.  I am an aggressive driver though.

I think you would need to have two of the same car with and without to really tell if there's a differences in everyday driving. I mean an LSD equipped spec v vs say a Camry isn't exactly going to tell you much.

The LSD is there to try and get the max grip out of the tires under hard driving conditions. When you start to spin them the tires stop doing their job and start becoming like hockey pucks on ice. So as far as I know unless you have spun your tires on a non LSD car and doing the same thing and not spinning your tires in an LSD car you haven't really push it hard enough to really tell what it means.

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2008-07-28 20:45:18 (23 weeks 1 day 23 hours 46 minutes 16 seconds) #1821330 | | view posts since this          #24 

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Re: Helical LSD

gotak wrote:

Zankoku wrote:

gotak wrote:

If you don't track the car or drive in snow you might never notice the difference.

Only an idiot wouldn't notice.  I used to drive a car that didn't have an LSD.  I can definately tell the difference.  I am an aggressive driver though.

I think you would need to have two of the same car with and without to really tell if there's a differences in everyday driving. I mean an LSD equipped spec v vs say a Camry isn't exactly going to tell you much.

The LSD is there to try and get the max grip out of the tires under hard driving conditions. When you start to spin them the tires stop doing their job and start becoming like hockey pucks on ice. So as far as I know unless you have spun your tires on a non LSD car and doing the same thing and not spinning your tires in an LSD car you haven't really push it hard enough to really tell what it means.

You don't have to compare the feature on two of the same cars.  That's for amateurs.  According to your logic,  in order to tell the difference between fwd handling and rwd handling, you would need to test two of the "same" cars whose only difference is the drivetrain layout.  Trust me, I can tell the difference without that nonsense.  The same goes for LSD and non.  Handling characteristics are night and day.  You can feel how a car with it pulls out of corners differenty than a car without one.  You can feel if the one side of the car is devoid of grip or not.  You can also judge by the understeer characteristics.  In a non-LSD car, the feeling of the car riding the outter wheels during understeer is immensely different than the characterists on a vehicle with LSD.



Wait... I just re-read your post and saw that you didn't say what I thought you did.  My apologies.  You were speaking of everyday driving.  Well, my everyday driving is still very hard.  With that, I can tell the difference with everyday driving.  smiley-wink

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2008-07-28 22:41:36 (23 weeks 1 day 21 hours 49 minutes 58 seconds) #1821542 | | view posts since this          #25 

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Re: Helical LSD

it wasnt on my sticker and i have it equal wheel spin on both tires


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^^^ I don't think its completly open even though it not LSD. My ZX2 didn't have a LSD and it spun both tires too.

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Re: Helical LSD

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it wasnt on my sticker and i have it equal wheel spin on both tires

same here i dont have a lsd and both of my wheels spin??


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Re: Helical LSD

Both tires can spin on an open diff if they have about the same amount of traction. Or its possable that you pay extra for a helical limited slip otherwise you get a viscous lsd or some other such cheapness. I always assumed thats how it was with the b15s was Spec-Vs got a helical LSD and the regular SE-R got a viscous or something nissan has been big on viscous LSDs in the past, they were used in the 240sx, infinity g30 and even the 300zx z31 & z32 i believe


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Re: Helical LSD

to figure out whether or not you have a lsd. just jack up both front wheels. spin one side. if the other spins in the opposite direction you don't have it.


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Re: Helical LSD

ha mine has it on the sticker and whats retarted is you get the mud flap things with the lsd. they come as a group or something


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Re: Helical LSD

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to figure out whether or not you have a lsd. just jack up both front wheels. spin one side. if the other spins in the opposite direction you don't have it.

Does that actually work? Cause apparently with most geared LSDs you need both wheels loaded for it to work as an LSD. Apparently, that means it doesn't always helps that much on snow and ice. If one wheel completely loses grip it can stop working and just spin that wheel.

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Re: Helical LSD

Shouldn't there be a way to find out whether or not your car has the LSD by reading the VIN?

I'm a proud new owner of an '07 Super Black Spec V - RF, moonroof, mud guards, and door moldings. I bought this car used with 5000 miles on it, so I can't be certain if mine is LSD equipped. Based off of what everyone is posting in here, mine should have it considering the option packages it is equipped with. Any help would be great!

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Re: Helical LSD

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Shouldn't there be a way to find out whether or not your car has the LSD by reading the VIN?

I'm a proud new owner of an '07 Super Black Spec V - RF, moonroof, mud guards, and door moldings. I bought this car used with 5000 miles on it, so I can't be certain if mine is LSD equipped. Based off of what everyone is posting in here, mine should have it considering the option packages it is equipped with. Any help would be great!

Look underneathe the car.  Is helical limited-slip differential written on the differential?

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Re: Helical LSD

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Shouldn't there be a way to find out whether or not your car has the LSD by reading the VIN?

I'm a proud new owner of an '07 Super Black Spec V - RF, moonroof, mud guards, and door moldings. I bought this car used with 5000 miles on it, so I can't be certain if mine is LSD equipped. Based off of what everyone is posting in here, mine should have it considering the option packages it is equipped with. Any help would be great!

Look underneathe the car.  Is helical limited-slip differential written on the differential?

Wow, is it really that easy? If so, I'm whipping out the hydro jack...

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Re: Helical LSD

O7Spec V wrote:

Zankoku wrote:

O7Spec V wrote:

Shouldn't there be a way to find out whether or not your car has the LSD by reading the VIN?

I'm a proud new owner of an '07 Super Black Spec V - RF, moonroof, mud guards, and door moldings. I bought this car used with 5000 miles on it, so I can't be certain if mine is LSD equipped. Based off of what everyone is posting in here, mine should have it considering the option packages it is equipped with. Any help would be great!

Look underneathe the car.  Is helical limited-slip differential written on the differential?

Wow, is it really that easy? If so, I'm whipping out the hydro jack...

Yeah, it's that easy.  It should be written with a multi-color graffiti style font (for added awesome).

Of course, I'm going to assume you know that I'm not serious.

In all seriousness, you can whip out the hydro jack.  As someone stated earlier, when you have the front end up, give one of the wheels a spin and watch to see what the other wheel does.

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2008-08-02 15:27:59 (22 weeks 4 days 5 hours 3 minutes 35 seconds) #1826536 | | view posts since this          #36 

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Re: Helical LSD

I did the old wheel spin thing and one wheel turned while the other just sat there. So I know I have the LSD!!!  smiley-w00tsmiley-w00tsmiley-w00tsmiley-w00t


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2008-08-06 00:18:04 (22 weeks 20 hours 13 minutes 30 seconds) #1829558 | | view posts since this          #37 

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Ok, I've heard this LSD spin one wheel test and whats the other do a few different ways. If it spins the other direction it IS an LSD. If you spin one tire and the other does nothing, it is an OPEN differential. Think of the purpose of the limited slip, if one of the wheels spins it is supposed to lock and spin the other wheel for optimum traction. If you put it on a rack and spin one wheel and the other does nothing, then even if you have an LSD it's not doing anything.

Viscous LSD's are most popular in RWD car's. Viscous LSD's typically have smoother engagement and make less noise. Helical LSD's are most common on FWD's. In fact I've never heard of a VLSD in a FWD car, I believe this is because the limited space for the gears as well as the perks of a helical LSD. Helical LSD's use the forces created by wheel spin to transfer power to outside wheel when cornering. Instead of truelly locking helical LSD's put the power to the wheel which is not spinning and continues to switch back and forth as that changes. The purpose of this is that equal power distribution on a FWD while cornering would light up the inside tire and be less effective. It transfers the power to the wheel with he weight on it and the best traction. Pushing the car into the corner.

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2008-11-01 00:00:51 (9 weeks 4 days 20 hours 30 minutes 43 seconds) #1910659 | | view posts since this          #38 

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Easy way to do it is just call Nissan Service Center and give them the last 8 of the VIN and say " Do I have The Helical Limited Slip Option or No"


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2008-11-03 17:44:47 (9 weeks 2 days 1 hour 46 minutes 47 seconds) #1912725 | | view posts since this          #39 

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I don't have the LSD but the option in Canada for 07' was only available with the "sport package" for a extra $1500 and I cant have a sun roof. Im to tall and my head rubs. So I didnt have that option otherwise I would have taken it :-)

But ya..I find you only really notice it in hi speed turns...and Winter driving...Big difference!!

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LSD was an option on the B16's.  the way you know u have it is to look on the factory sticker.  not the dealer one. it will say it on there... or you can call the dealer service dept. and give them the vehicle vin number and they can look it up and tell you everything that was installed on that car.  a quick way to tell is by checking the tires... the continental sport contacts 2 came with all lsd equipped specV's.  but they were an option on non lsd. specs

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Im sure they will be replaceing my tranny soon. Im wondering If when they decide to do that if I can pay the 400.00 to get the LSD .. Im ganna ask on Tuesday when I take the stupid car in.


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Re: Helical LSD

keep us updated on if you can order those parts.  I'd love to get it and have it installed

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