Black04SpecV wrote:

I will try to put a HOW-TO with pictures together.

Quoted b/c it makes me smile. 



Please be as detailed as possible for those of us who may fall a little on the we-todd-did side.

Im thinking of removing my neo and getting one of these instead to work with my S/C set up.  What do you guys think? All of my other electronics are AEM.  Please get good step by step pics for a novice like me to install.  I didn't even put in my neo, had it done by someone but it is already acting up causing my car to stall and die.

btw, if u need help with shit... http://www.aemfic.com/

just watch out. if it absolutely requires crank/cam angle signal, it's highly likely that you will have trobule getting it going.

you'll see i guess... emanage blue does the injector pulse lengthening and maf clamp without a crank angle signal, so it's possible.

always plan on wiring jobs to take a lot longer if you want to do a good job running all the wires and making sure you'll get no short circuits.

MajorMods wrote:

with things like that, can the fi/c work WITHOUT those being hooked up?  so u can only wire in like the injector and maf clamp?

I believe so.

Here are instructions for the FI/C. LINK --> http://tunertools.com/prodimages/AEM/ma … 10_FIC.pdf

Last edited by Black04SpecV (2008-07-11 14:19:24)

MajorMods wrote:

found one for $300 shipped BRAND NEW.  i just like having a safc2 unit as opposed to a laptop.  so gay!

Having laptop rocks, data logging FTW!

Where did u find one for $300 shipped?

Last edited by Black04SpecV (2008-07-11 14:25:13)

i didn't see a way to hook up the uego or an external oxygen sensor, past the 02 skew

gurov wrote:

i didn't see a way to hook up the uego or an external oxygen sensor, past the 02 skew

In the manual there is a connection for a narrowband and wideband o2. I assume I would connect the narrowband wires to the first o2 sensor and the wideband wires to the uego.

I am almost 98% positive that it will work with my UEGO.

FI/C pin connections;

                                                   FI/C:                  SpecV ECU:
Crank position signal;          CRK HALI/O -/+          ECU pin 13, color - yellow
Camshaft position signal;     CAM2 HALI/O -/+        ECU pin 14, color - W/R
MAF signal;                         MAF IN/OUT +             ECU pin 51, color - L/R
Injectors;                           INJ (1 up to 6) IN/OUT  ECU pins 23 - R/B, 42 - Y/B, 22 - G-B, 41 - L/B
UEGO connection                 021+                          UEGO
Power                                 IGN PWR                    ECU pin 109
TPS position signal               TPS +                        ECU pin 47 - B
Ground                               PWR GND - two wires  ECU pin 115-116
Singal Ground? - Anybody know where is the signal ground on the ECM?

Let me know if I'm wrong!

look at the safc install guide, that has ground points on the ecu.

now just have to know if the thing will understand the crank/cam angle sensor,OR you just run it in fuel mode.

ah yes, i see the o2 hookups. neat.

find the tuning guide for the software

is there any kind of autotune feature, or are the o2's mostly just for logging ?

Black04SpecV wrote:

gurov wrote:

look at the safc install guide, that has ground points on the ecu.

now just have to know if the thing will understand the crank/cam angle sensor,OR you just run it in fuel mode.

I will find out...

What is the worst which could happen? Assuming the FI/C doesn/t understand the crank/cam signal? From what I understand the crank/cam signal is there only to advance/retard ignition timing.

right, you can actually only retard the timing with the FI/C, as far as i remember from reading a manual

MajorMods wrote:

so o2 sensor logging would imply it can datalog a uego, no?

Yes! finally I'll be able to datalog the UEGO!

gurov wrote:

Black04SpecV wrote:

gurov wrote:

look at the safc install guide, that has ground points on the ecu.

now just have to know if the thing will understand the crank/cam angle sensor,OR you just run it in fuel mode.

I will find out...

What is the worst which could happen? Assuming the FI/C doesn/t understand the crank/cam signal? From what I understand the crank/cam signal is there only to advance/retard ignition timing.

right, you can actually only retard the timing with the FI/C, as far as i remember from reading a manual

My point being it shouldn't effect tuning at all. My timing is retarded -2 degrees anyway.

hopefully this reads the crank/cam signal because im seriously fixing to get this and have this installed and tunned on my car in a few weeks

Update!

I have not forgotten about this.

Now I'm just waiting for the FI/C to show up... I have had bought it 7-12-08 on ebay. Still have not showed up...sigh...I hate ebay.

I have AEM TRU-BOOST gauge on its way as well so hopefully in the next week or two I will be running full AEM setup with FI/C, UEGO and TRU-BOOST, should be pretty baller

MajorMods wrote:

awesome.  im bout to purchase everything together.  My neighbor bought a fi/c for his sons protegespeed and he said it cant work with it. 

FYI, its a fuckin wiring nightmare, for me at least cuz i hate wiring.  It looks badass in the manual as far as settings, tuning, datalogging, etc.  I might have Travis or a real shop install this thing for me.  Also, on the tru boost, i think im gonna buy the 5bar upgrade.

Werd the FI/C is universal and it "should" be able to work with any vehicle, maybe he just sucks at installing shit?

The installation shouldn't be hard. There are 40+ wires in the FI/C harness, but you will be only using 10+ wires.

Too bad you don't live closer to me... I'd install the FI/C for you. I am REALLY good at soldering

What is the 5bar upgrade about? How much psi can you run with the standard solenoid for the TRU-BOOST?

Last edited by Black04SpecV (2008-07-22 10:31:15)

MajorMods wrote:

Black04SpecV wrote:

MajorMods wrote:

awesome.  im bout to purchase everything together.  My neighbor bought a fi/c for his sons protegespeed and he said it cant work with it. 

FYI, its a fuckin wiring nightmare, for me at least cuz i hate wiring.  It looks badass in the manual as far as settings, tuning, datalogging, etc.  I might have Travis or a real shop install this thing for me.  Also, on the tru boost, i think im gonna buy the 5bar upgrade.

The installation shouldn't be hard. There are 40+ wires in the FI/C harness, but you will be only using 10+ wires.

Too bad you don't live closer to me... I'd install the FI/C for you. I am REALLY good at soldering

What is the 5bar upgrade about? How much psi can you run with the standard solenoid for the TRU-BOOST?

up to 30psi.  I know ill be around 25-30 w/ 8.5:1 so i just dont wanna have to worry about upgrading later.  i dunno, if theres not much to the upgrade I can do it at a later time but i just like having everything done all at once, ya know.

please please please post up some info as u proceed with the install, it COULD help me since im going into unchartered territory, yet again.

I'll try to do detailed how-to with plenty of pictures once the FI/C finally gets here.

I HATE waiting on parts...

Last edited by Black04SpecV (2008-07-26 10:16:12)

Black04SpecV wrote:

MajorMods wrote:

Black04SpecV wrote:

The installation shouldn't be hard. There are 40+ wires in the FI/C harness, but you will be only using 10+ wires.

Too bad you don't live closer to me... I'd install the FI/C for you. I am REALLY good at soldering

What is the 5bar upgrade about? How much psi can you run with the standard solenoid for the TRU-BOOST?

up to 30psi.  I know ill be around 25-30 w/ 8.5:1 so i just dont wanna have to worry about upgrading later.  i dunno, if theres not much to the upgrade I can do it at a later time but i just like having everything done all at once, ya know.

please please please post up some info as u proceed with the install, it COULD help me since im going into unchartered territory, yet again.

I'll try to do detailed how-to with plenty of pictures once the FI/C finally gets here.

If I'd have the 07-08 FSM I could figure out the pin outs for the FI/C.

I HATE waiting on parts...

tony - gimme ur email.  i can send u the fsm part of the wiring.  if u could do that, i could POSSIBLY do this myself.  LOL