
Marc

Hey Guys,
I was reading up on this electric vehicle article and saw that they included the Sentra in their list of recommended conversion cars. Just curious if anyone else has seriously considered this...
Electric Sentra article
As far as body style, you need something that can hold all the batteries you’ll be installing. Michael Brown, author of <Convert It!, recommends a car that is light and roomy like a Rabbit, Civic, Sentra, Escort or light pickup truck. The ideal donor car has a good body and interior, sound transmission, but a dead engine.
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Ryan aka Marve

nice, we got included in something! lol

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Marc W.




super, a conversion to make are cars even slower! 
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LAWLZ it's only Viet!



So who's the 1st to try?


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So Hungry I could ride a horse



dibs
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D Money


you're talkin to the WRONG group of people

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Batman



lol, dead engine






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James




Marcatarkon wrote:
Hey Guys,
I was reading up on this electric vehicle article and saw that they included the Sentra in their list of recommended conversion cars. Just curious if anyone else has seriously considered this...
Electric Sentra articleAs far as body style, you need something that can hold all the batteries you’ll be installing. Michael Brown, author of <Convert It!, recommends a car that is light and roomy like a Rabbit, Civic, Sentra, Escort or light pickup truck. The ideal donor car has a good body and interior, sound transmission, but a dead engine.
Thats very interesting.....
When I took my car down to Z-fever in FL, I saw the most insane elctric car. it was a B13 four door. The trunk contained 26 regular car batteries @ 35lbs a piece. it was a 5 speed transmission I believe. Doug(the owner and builder) claimed that it could go for 10 hours before recharge, and that when he hooked aplifiers up to it that it generated somewhere in the range of 1180 lbs of touque @ any RPM. said that he ripped the first trannsmission out, and the second transmission ran a 10.2 on slicks. I didn't get to check it out that much, but the motor wasn't really that big
It may seem a little unbelieveable, but this is the same guy who put an sr20 in an integra, and multiple 300z's, along with the convertable 240sx RHD on modifiedcartrader. I saw what I saw, and it was fucking cool.

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Jaden


Great to find this thread!
I just watched 'Who killed the electric car' and it really got me thinking. And angry. http://www.whokilledtheelectriccar.com/
Just last week I read the story about Tesla Motors in Fortune magazine. http://www.teslamotors.com/
And then there was the race out here at Sears Point (Infinion) with the Wrightspeed racer beating a Porsche and Ferrari. http://www.wrightspeed.com/
Now, I have been looking at the AC-150 system from ACPropulsion http://www.acpropulsion.com/ They are the people that developed the drive system for the Tesla Roadster.
At $25K, it is a bit of a reach for me. But, I am from CA and serious about evironmental issues. I have mentioned sereral times that I regularly ride an all electric scooter to work. 3 weeks ago, I approached someone who has a G.E.M. e825 parked immobile in front of their house trying to buy it (she would not sell, even though it doen't run right now).
So, check it out. If you can live with a 100 mile range between recharge, what would be the arguement against electric?
Electric doesn't have to mean 'slow'.
I have another month of commitments before I was going to get going on the SC install. Now, I feel like looking into electric conversions before I spend time and money on that.
I would love to see someone with an electric B15, even a SpecEV. Who knows, it may be me.
Jaden
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Steve



'Who killed the electric car' is an awesome documentary
. It does make you angry to know that electric power is being kept from us. In Ontario you can't even buy E85 because there are no stations (ok just 3 in Ontario). Lets face it the Gov. doesn't give a crap about the environment they just talk sh!t. BTW any FI car can run on 50% Ethanol with no modifications but a E85 flex fuel conversion kit costs only $300.
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Marc

More on the electric sentra. They DO exsist...
http://www.google.com/custom?site=evalb … &hl=en
http://www.evalbum.com/1578
http://www.evalbum.com/551
And because I love the old school Datsun's (0-60 in 3 seconds) http://www.evalbum.com/35
oh, and an electric Porche with a 5sec 0-60 AND 120mph max
http://www.evalbum.com/293
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02RedSpec-V wrote:
'Who killed the electric car' is an awesome documentary
. It does make you angry to know that electric power is being kept from us. In Ontario you can't even buy E85 because there are no stations (ok just 3 in Ontario). Lets face it the Gov. doesn't give a crap about the environment they just talk sh!t. BTW any FI car can run on 50% Ethanol with no modifications but a E85 flex fuel conversion kit costs only $300.
It's not the government in my opinion, it's the car makers. They are getting kickbacks from oil companies to keep producing petrol burning cars, and to slow the production of electric/hydrogen cars.
Too bad for the car makers, as public perception of the automobile is finally changing to a more gas conservative vehicle than the old chuggers we use to build. The Fit, Versa, Smart, etc are all examples of this. I highly doubt they would have had as much success as they do now, as if they were released say 10 years ago.

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Marc

I've been waiting to see this for years:
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/12/ligh … owered-gt/
One of my coworkers pointed out the old phrase:
"Race on Sunday, sell on Monday"
The theory behind this is if you watch dodge win a nascar on Sunday, people will go buy a dodge on Monday.
What we really need are EV only races. This would amp up the buzz, and chizel away at perception that EV's are slow.
rexdriver85 wrote:
super, a conversion to make are cars even slower!
Rex, I'm looking at you, lol 
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Dave



FUck the electric cars I dont feel liek thats where its at. Have you ever heard of the stan myer car? He made a car that no shit runs of any kind of water dirty or not or even tea. IT is bad ass One of the videos said it could get you from east cost to west with just 1 bottle of water there working and running now why arnt we using this technolagy???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrxfMz2eDME
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Marc

WhatNissan wrote:
FUck the electric cars I dont feel liek thats where its at. Have you ever heard of the stan myer car? He made a car that no shit runs of any kind of water dirty or not or even tea. IT is bad ass One of the videos said it could get you from east cost to west with just 1 bottle of water there working and running now why arnt we using this technolagy???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrxfMz2eDME
Interesting...
Typical fuel cell vehicles take in hydrogen and emit water, but Genepax’s car generates electricity by breaking down water into hydrogen and oxygen.
The company says that this is made possible by a technology called ‘membrane electrode assembly (or MEA), which contains a material that is capable of breaking down water into hydrogen and oxygen through a chemical reaction.
"It does not require you to build up an infrastructure to recharge your batteries, which is usually the case for most electric cars," said Genepax’s CEO Kiyoshi Hirasawa on Tokyo TV. According to the company, the system alone costs about ¥2,000,000 (roughly $18,000 U.S.) but if mass produced, the cost can be reduced to about $5,000 or less. Some people have reacted with disbelief and questioned the car’s legitimacy, claiming that the technology appears to violate the First Law of Thermodynamics . Genepax is reportedly in the midst of filing a patent for its groundbreaking technology. Without more in-depth details, we can’t say for sure if the car is too good to be true, but this will certainly be something worth watching for in the coming months.
I've had some chemistry classes and would like to see how he managed to pull it off. Not doubting it one bit, just looking to see where the energy is coming from. It mentions a chemical process, but that is pretty vague. Hope he gets the patents and makes a Billion dollars. A much larger step in the right direction than "Hybrid" cars.
I had to laugh as i re-read your post...
FUck the electric cars I dont feel liek thats where its at.
Technically, it is still an electric car, it just doesn't pull power from a large bank of batteries. It probably has a small battery or capacitor in there somewhere.
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Marc

Big J wrote:
you could swap an Altima 2.5 hybrid drive train
I thought about that, but the more I thought, the less I liked it. Something about an electric motor that HAS to have the gas counterpart running in order to work just irks me.
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Dave



water is everywhere I just would figure that some one would be pushing to get this technology out. Way more effecent than what Honda is doing and convirting natrual gas to hydrogen and I guess it takes 6 hours using there in home unit cause there is no storage tanks in it. I can take a hose and fill up a car in a matter of minutes and it doesn't cost me a dime cause I don't pay for water here.
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James




Marcatarkon wrote:
More on the electric sentra. They DO exsist...
http://www.google.com/custom?site=evalb … &hl=en
http://www.evalbum.com/1578
http://www.evalbum.com/551
And because I love the old school Datsun's (0-60 in 3 seconds) http://www.evalbum.com/35
oh, and an electric Porche with a 5sec 0-60 AND 120mph max
http://www.evalbum.com/293
wow dude, thanks for sharing, those are really neat cars. I have done quite a bit of research myself on electric cars. it all really comes down to the battery. most the folks with the EV cars have such shitty range because of lead acid. lead accid batteries are really tough/cheap great batteries, but they are really heavy, and their "juice to wieght ratio" just plain sucks.
Lithium-Ion batteries are great, just so expensive. they are reasonable in weight, and hold way more charge. I read a web site that does a conversion for a scion xb. uses lithium-Ion has a 280 mile range, and I would believe it. I believe in these batteries, its just the damn cost.
Also, battery powered cars are way more efficient if they don't have a transmission. no tranny, and they are super efficient. probably 150 miles on lead acid vs 50. too much power loss.
This is the website I learned about batteries from Isidor Buchmann, its awsome. really great research, guy knows his shit
www. batteryuniversity.com
I printed out every lesson, and have a binder with all his research. 
and Dave, those "water cars" are electirc like Marcatarkon said, in a sense. but, I still have my doughts about them. seems too good to be true.
Electric car technology is here. and I bet you anything OPEC is worried. There is a limit to oil, there is no limit with electricity. it will always be around

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Marc

In relation to electric cars being 'slow' http://jalopnik.com/5101963/tesla-schoo … -drag-race
On Nov 30th, the fastest production electric vehicles in the U.S. went head-to-head. While their first meeting had a number of issues, most notably the underfilled Tango battery pack, and the Tesla's non-upgraded drivetrain, the 1/4 mile time is quite close and indicative of races to come.
In this race, the Tango got 92.15mph in 14.480 seconds, beating its 14.7 "dial" handicap and thus losing the competition; the Tesla got 101.23mph in 14.666 seconds, slower than its 14.5 "dial" handicap and allowing it to proceed to the next round. (Two rounds later, the Tango's driver got behind the wheel of the Tesla and also beat its "dial" handicap... and thus lost!)
Last I checked, this is roughly on par with a stock sentra. Roughly...
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Marc

Haha, after looking at the Sentra drag times here: http://myspecv.com/f/qtime.php it looks like these electric vehicles would beat the majority of N/A specs.
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