whats going to be the price difference and difference of jwt and techno?

Big J wrote:

smartbomb wrote:

As part of my Time Attack program, JWT is now activly working on devoping an ECU flash for the Spec-V.

The Nitto's cars turbo system will run on a JWT reflashed ECU.  So flashes will probably soon start to be developed for other applications on this car.

Treadstone would be very interested in having a Treadstone spec reflash available for their turbo Kit.

MajorMods would be very interested in having a Treadstone spec reflash available for his Treadstone turbo kit.   

but seriously, mike, any hope for the 07 guys?  I know/think my ecu is smarter than the B15 and probably controls more which means it can override alot more, ie. safc2 SO... the sooner the better for me!

i imagine the price for a reflash will be around 500. thats how much it is for the b13's. i would deff get this so i wouldnt have to tune my car again ever. jwt for the win

Mike has an 02-03..  i'm unaware of him changing to the 04 setup?

are they also going to be working on the 04 ecu?

MajorMods wrote:

silversurfer wrote:

Dude, it's taken them this long to address the b15 qr25 ECU and you think they'll jump right on the 07 Spec V ECU?  lol...

The market for the 07 Spec V is TINY right now.  Just think about supply and demand.  There exists a greater demand for the b15 qr25 ECU reflash simply based on the number of b15 Spec Vs on the road.

The 07 Spec V is too new.  Give it time.

Dude, u dont gotta crush me like that!  i feel so small and unimportant right now.

lol...  Put down the razor.  Seriously though, just be patient on the 07s.  They're too new.  Heck, you guys don't even have a CAI and header available yet.  Get the basics done, then get to the ECU stuff.

im interested in an n/a reflash

duesmandella wrote:

i imagine the price for a reflash will be around 500. thats how much it is for the b13's. i would deff get this so i wouldnt have to tune my car again ever. jwt for the win

expect $500 + $350 core and then a credit when u send back ur stock one.  OR have a shitload of downtime waiting for urs to be returned

i don't think you can core exchange a spec ecu there is an imobilizer involved or is that seperate unit.

Also major mods why are all your post so condessending on the b15s? Yes i'm aware you have a b16, i'm also aware that you are happy but every post ihave read is my b16 is better then this my b16 is better then that. I know its a public forum and not trying to show disrespect but that is just the way i'm interpreting your comments. It seems that you ask alot fo questions and don't know enough about the b15-b16 platform to be making some of the comments that you do.

Back to the topic.
Down time for these things are top 3 days one day to ship early in the moring day to flash usualy out the same day and arrives the same or next day depends on how much you wnat to pay. This is the way it was done for my dads vishnu wrx.

Last edited by dread1 (2007-10-17 13:02:25)

nevermind jeff already said it, anywys, if treadstone is seriously interested in doing a Reflash, since im local ill be more than hapoy to loan them my car for this.

What kind of gains would you see from a reflash? What exactly does a reflash do and how does it keep tunes from drifting?

Thanks

+1 on the tune drift keeping me from boosting...

OK guys I just got off the phone with Ben from JWT.  He says that they have been trying to develop the ECU since 2002 and are just getting bits and pieces of the information together.  He told me that the ECU is still a long ways out and it is on the back burner to other projects.  So as much as we all want this ECU for our car............looks like we are still stuck.   Heres an idea.....if everyone starts calling more often then maybe they will see the demand for it and bring it to the front of there projects.     Well just an idea.

RyansSpecV03 wrote:

Heres an idea.....if everyone starts calling more often then maybe they will see the demand for it and bring it to the front of there projects.     Well just an idea.

Or maybe they'd be so busy answering phone calls that they couldn't get anything done.

Mike will make sure they stay on task so he can have his car ready, let them do their work.

MajorMods wrote:

duesmandella wrote:

i imagine the price for a reflash will be around 500. thats how much it is for the b13's. i would deff get this so i wouldnt have to tune my car again ever. jwt for the win

expect $500 + $350 core and then a credit when u send back ur stock one.  OR have a shitload of downtime waiting for urs to be returned

no way are they doing a core exchange. not on a ecu that still cost huge money. You just send them yours and wait a couple weeks for them to reflash it and send it back.
not only have they not cracked it yet guys, but there still going to have run it on a car for a while and see how it holds up and do dyno runs to see the average gain.

smells of dreamworks turbo kit in here

xbrandonx wrote:

MajorMods wrote:

xbrandonx wrote:

hopefully JWT can get the code cracked this time.

Its always a nice asset to have mike on your side.

Treadstone, JWT does the ECU reflashes for mod for mod applications so people that buy the kit from you would be better actually having their own done in case they want to run a different size injector/turbo etc.

well since treadstone is bolt-on itd be great to buy the reflash with it. 

jwt: what mods do u have?
cust: dunno, just the treadstone kit
jwt: oh great, we have a reflash made just for that
cust: really, so all i have to do is just get that and my car is tuned?
jwt: yep, thats it!

since the kit comes with 440cc and a standard turbo from turbonetics, not much more u can buy except it being ball bearing.

What if you want to run a different turbo?

It'd work out great for those wanting to bolt up the treadstone kit and go, however for those who want to modify it are going to have to pay the $595 extra (thats what the b14 costs) then they'd have to pay an extra $595 to have JWT reflash it again to suit their new needs.  Actually the treadstone kit might have to go higher then that since they'll have to acquire ECUs as well, whereas while you're car is down for the turbo install you can have yours shipped off, shouldn't really increase the downtime, but would save from having to buy a 2nd ECU.


Also with the reflash they should be able to remove the rev limiter which some people may want and some might not.  Also I've seen some turbos running 2.5" downpipe/exhaust some 3", I'm not sure what all the treadstone kit comes with however JWT can tune it based on that exhaust.

Lets also say I went turbo and left my cams in, the JWT cams and install the turbo on that, there is something different as well.  Even though the kit is a bolt on application, there are still quite a few options you can go with.

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I hope that if they do include it with the kit, they'll make it optional for those who are wanting something custom, something for you guys to really think about!

The load cells the ECU hits depends upon the mass flow, changing turbos generaly won't require reprograming.

Some cars like EVO's require reprograming after wevery little mod because of the Karman type MAF which is real senstive to any sort of change in anything.  The Spec uses a hot wire and is less likely to need touch up reprograming.  I make a lot of changes all the time on other Nissans and always check and I rairly have to reprogram.

ok so it's still a ways off but do they have the abilty to bump the rev limit and keep the ECU from wondering from constantly re-learning? And dammit why are we always the ones to be put on the back burner for companies, I'm starting to think that's where we've been all along.

Last edited by exile666 (2007-10-18 17:30:08)

xbrandonx wrote:

exile666 wrote:

ok so it's still a ways off but do they have the abilty to bump the rev limit and keep the ECU from wondering from constantly re-learning?

They've already talked about hoping that the ECU won't relearn (tune drift) which in all honesty the ECU reflash is worth it just based on that alone.

And they've been able to remove the rev limiter on the b14/13 however that doesn't mean that it will be any safer to rev higher....

don't worry...with what i got planned, it will be

Last edited by exile666 (2007-10-18 17:59:50)

smartbomb wrote:

xbrandonx wrote:

exile666 wrote:

ok so it's still a ways off but do they have the abilty to bump the rev limit and keep the ECU from wondering from constantly re-learning?

They've already talked about hoping that the ECU won't relearn (tune drift) which in all honesty the ECU reflash is worth it just based on that alone.

And they've been able to remove the rev limiter on the b14/13 however that doesn't mean that it will be any safer to rev higher....

If you change the base maps through reflashing, it won't change that much.  If you use a piggyback, there is a large chance things will drift in the closed loop operation side of things.

JWT has been completly reprograming Nissan boxes, except the new generation encripted ones for many years.  They can do much more than remove the rev limited on B13/B14's.

I know that they can do more, he asked if the b15 would remove the rev limiter, and I was just letting him know that they've done it for the b13/14, so chances should look pretty good.

Subscribing.

Strychnine wrote:

JWT is supposed to call me back tomorrow. Hopefully there will be some good news!