
gennady gurov







After trying to tune the car again tonight, and getting utterly disgusted with the fuel behavior i saw out of the stock ecu, i finally bit the bullet and ordered another standalone, this time i will actually have enough patience to get it working fully unlike the haltech e6x I had and sold.
the tuning box this time is made by Spectre performance - eMS-Pro.
http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/spec … 2d3469ed62
it is based on megasquirt code and includes all of the features of megasquirt in a more-refined package. most importantly it can drive coil on plug igniters, which would require some hackign with normal megasquirt due to the relay board having to be used
damage so far: $1000 this includes the standalone, flying lead harness, water temp, air temp sensors.
i figure i will spend at least another 100 dollars on a 36-2 or a 60-2 wheel with a stock crank angle sensor that will be running all of this.
here is the product description:
http://www.diyautotune.com/products/eMS … roinfo.pdf
this box will support up to 41 pounds of boost.
my plan is to piggyback this standalone onto the stock ecu and make it control boost, fuel, ignition, provided a 2 step, shiftlight and other engine-controlling functions, while leaving all the rest to the stock ecu.

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i hate wiring. lol
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Kurt Kennedy



Spec Jay wrote:
i hate wiring. lol
Its pretty straight forward. Cut this wire, and connect this one, heat shrink it, then move to the next.
I am still hoping i can take mine to Hydra over winter.
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gennady gurov










and 
is what's on the way now, i'm going to pick up another stock crank angle sensor

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this sounds like something i would never be able to do. cant wait to see your install page on this
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while it seems like a nice solution for your current dilema, does it control the injectors on sign or square wave? I am wondering only because I'm looking for a square wave pulse component to control the cam phasing, which in the long run would be the best bet for a stand alone option - currently only efi technology and motec are the only two that offer such needs...
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gennady gurov







wperdigon wrote:
while it seems like a nice solution for your current dilema, does it control the injectors on sign or square wave? I am wondering only because I'm looking for a square wave pulse component to control the cam phasing, which in the long run would be the best bet for a stand alone option - currently only efi technology and motec are the only two that offer such needs...
i have no idea if it's a square wave or a sin wave. it provides ground to the injectors, just like all the other standalone options out there.

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it would be sign if thats the case - shame though, cause if we can find something that is square wave, and controllable, then we can control our cam phasing
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gennady gurov







just ordered another part. damage this time is 31 dollars with shipping.
this is from everythhingnissan.com
stock crank angle sensor for a 2.5 sentra.
i am still waiting to hear about whether 60-2 will be more beneficial than a 36-1.
i will be using one of those shitty ralco pulleys to mount the wheel on.

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...prrrrrettyyyy...
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your not a fan of ralco?

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always with the new toys gurov. Very nice though.

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Matt


i was planning on using the haltech. would you recommend this over the haltech.
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gennady gurov







supa_slow wrote:
i was planning on using the haltech. would you recommend this over the haltech.
this is cheaper and will tune itself. wait to see how mine goes and then judge for yourself, i actually plan to get this thing working without a dyno and tune it fully on the road.

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gennady gurov







i got the unit this morning along with the harness, beautifully done, i will let the pictures speak for themselves:
the box
the unit:
connector:
you can see the built in map sensor, it will work up to 44 psi. One can connect an external map sensor as well.
back of the unit, usb and serial and dipswitches:
water temp and air temp sensors with connectors:
the harness, this was $90:
the connector on the harness:
all the wires are labeled this way, this is AWESOME, will make it so much easier to install, this is a BITCH on the haltech, as the wires are not labeled
dipswitch settings.
2nd one from the left has to be flipped to enable ( down ) the HALL/OPTO circuit as i will be using a HALL IC type sensor (stock crank angle sensor on a 36-1 or 60-2 wheel)
3rd one from the right has to be flipped to disable ( up ), this is to disable the VR/Magnetic/Inductiive pickup. this is for the engine position (crank angle)
for us, in a waste spark configuration:
5th and 4th from the right must be switched to ON (down) - this enables 5 volt firing of the ignition transistor. our stock coils take 5 volts
it looks like these two settings would allow us to run two MSD boxes if they make something that will output a better spark than the LS1 coils, but whatever, it's not
the connector layout:
the layout of the installation how they envision it. this demonstrated a batch fire (2 sides) of injectors and a single ignition device (distributor), in our case there will be two signals, to set up for wastespark, this is when two coils fire at the same time, 1+3 and 4+2, these cylinders are at top dead center at the same time, one is at the compression stroke and one is at the exhaust stroke. firing the coil again doesn't hurt it. this would also enable us to use mitsubishi coilpacks or say for example LS1 coils in waste spark fire (4 coil packs, two firing off the same signal) more on this a bit later.
one of 5 or 6 switches will have to be switched on, i will make note of this further as I install this. switch 5 is a 5volt Hall/Opto sensor pullup, switch 6 is for 12volt hall/opto sensor pullup, this will depend on what the output of the stock crank angle sensor is. I'll have to throw it on an oscilloscope and figure that out once i have the wheel installed.

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Nice man, definatley let us know how it goes.
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gennady gurov







oh yeah, there are blue LEDs behind the plexiglass that light up for diagnostics. looks pretty damn cool, i just need to find a place to mount it now, hahah

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gurov wrote:
this box will support up to 41 pounds of boost.
Think that will be enough? 
Fantastic!
Have you thought about throwing in an '07 crank for a new redline?
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gennady gurov







fuel wrote:
gurov wrote:
this box will support up to 41 pounds of boost.
Think that will be enough?
Fantastic!
Have you thought about throwing in an '07 crank for a new redline?
i am tackling the management aspect of this at first. i'll run 13-14 psi on this at the track. once i blow the motor or decide it's time to go much bigger, i will build the engine, depending on people's experiments with 07 crank, that will be part of the build.

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looks excellent for me. cheaper and more easy to install than haltech
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can this run the cvtc or nvcs of nissans?
also do you keep your oem ecu to run the other stuff, windows,locks,etc

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is there a link to where i can read more about how this works
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any update gurov?
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very interested....any progress with this?
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gennady gurov







JPE16 wrote:
very interested....any progress with this?
i've got the 60-2 crank angle wheel sitting here on my desk, i am temporarily taking a break from this project to build a 2002 turbo specv while documenting every step. once that's up and running and the racing season is over, i'll pick up the standalone again.

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gennady gurov







TechSalvager wrote:
can this run the cvtc or nvcs of nissans?
also do you keep your oem ecu to run the other stuff, windows,locks,etc
oem ecu will be rerained for CVTC control as well as AC/fans/gauge cluster etc. EMS-PRO will simply run fuel and ignition systems.

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Charles Kounakowitch

I'm doing the same thing to a tiny QG15DE, in a european hatchback, and the wiring harness that comes with the EMS-Pro helps a lot with the labels on the wires.
I'll get some info here on how to put a trigger wheel on the crankshaft pulley, and how to put the sensor next to it.
Unfoturnately we don't have many specialized shop in France, so I have to get everything from US and UK. (200$ customs on the EMS-Pro !)
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gennady gurov







Ckouna wrote:
I'm doing the same thing to a tiny QG15DE, in a european hatchback, and the wiring harness that comes with the EMS-Pro helps a lot with the labels on the wires.
I'll get some info here on how to put a trigger wheel on the crankshaft pulley, and how to put the sensor next to it.
Unfoturnately we don't have many specialized shop in France, so I have to get everything from US and UK. (200$ customs on the EMS-Pro !)
welcome, glad you made it over here, lemme know if the pictures i sent you made any difference.
import a qr25 for your hatchback 

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Charles Kounakowitch

The pictures helped a lot, I also have 2 holes in the pulley to pull it out (but how do I pull it out if I'm using the holes for the trigger wheel ?)
Do I have to take the engine out to do this ? (I hope not)
I don't know how to remove the stock pulley, it's a big bolt, but I have no idea on how to block the crankshaft.
If this is offtopic I'll create a new one.
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Charles Kounakowitch

Nevermind, I pulled it out with no problem and ordered a trigger wheel + sensor from http://trigger-wheels.com/
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